If you read in the Manta app, it has a brief history of the knights of Phil Aaron. I already read the chapter today but didn't comment or going to write my review and thoughts as today is my last full day at my aunt house as tomorrow night I am back to the states and have been busy packing up and I might write it on Tuesday but very late because I am going to arrive at home Tuesday midnight or after midnight.
I guess this is the founder of the knights, many years ago. Like some elite unit or something. But I don't remember reading a detailed explanation anywhere.
Good morning lovely oasties That's right, some things are changed in the manga that are not shown in the novel or are shown differently. I've noticed this before with other novels. With UTOT, however, the manga would last 10 years if you drew it exactly according to the novel template I agree with you that there is no question who is more "damaged" Maxi or Riftan. But I would like to say that he should not only have seen his point of view, but based on her initial behavior, learn to understand how she "ticks" and then, being more reasonable, be able to direct her better. In that respect, I thought he was selfish for only seeing things from his point of view, which is kind of understandable as it made him better able to cope with the pain of her departure. The exact description of how Riftan felt when Maxi went to Nornui and how he felt back then during the Dragon Campaign could actually be seen pretty well in his POV. Just as Ruth sent him to dreamland with a fond memory while tending to Riftan's wounds. I can imagine how he felt when Maxi left for the World Tower. You could already imagine that from the heartbreaking scene in the port of Anatol when he collapsed in tears. It was a bitter time for him, and as I said, he saw everything with his eyes and in order for HE to deal with it better, it was easier for him to blame Maxi for his suffering. However, to be stubborn at the reunion, to fend it off and not say anything was very unfair of him. Maxi matured from it, but if she hadn't pulled back and considered him more important to get back together with, I don't know how the story would have ended in the end. I really like this story and both main characters equally. And no, I don't think KsJ is doing any more POVs of Riftan in this context either. I also think it's a pity that KsJ didn't really respond more to Riftan's feelings, although I can imagine how he felt, you can tell by his long, hard behavior towards Maxi. But we all have our imaginations to form our own opinions. That's ok for me.
Hey everyone! Alright, I'm ready to respond to all the points that caught my attention in your opinions!! In general, I agree with many of you that Riftan didn't handle things well when it came to his behavior towards Maxi. While we don't necessarily need his POV since we can infer and interpret his attitude from what we have, it's still different from before. In his previous perspective, he had this illusion that gave him hope – an illusion of Maxi being shaped by his perception of her. But the truth is, she wasn't exactly like that. He let go of that illusion during the dragon fight, deciding to truly get to know the real Maxi. This is why he went after her when he returned, to genuinely understand her and to know her. As I mentioned before, we're dealing with two broken individuals here, struggling with self-esteem and communication issues. Riftan did, in a way, "overcome" some issues, but he actually just pushed them aside, and that's been simmering in his subconscious. Just as he had an image of Maxi, she developed her own image of him that didn't quite match the real Riftan. She feared him, thought he might be as violent as her father. While Riftan is gruff, he was never violent toward or with her. He's clumsy because he only knows how to escape from women, not really how to deal with them. Both of them kept things from each other. True, Riftan never explained his origins or what he went through, but Maxi didn't share anything either. From her mother's struggle to conceive to how she was actually treated at home – if it weren't for her sister, I doubt Maxi would've mentioned her abusive father. Even at the inn, if Riftan hadn't started the conversation, she probably wouldn't have said anything. In fact, she tried to dodge it and avoid revealing anything due to her pride. What I'm getting at with understanding Riftan is that the judgments go both ways – people say things like "Oh, he treated her badly, he pities her, he should be patient," but the same applies to Maxi's treatment of him. She presses him, seeks answers from him without trying to understand his feelings, looks for quick fixes, and sometimes has outbursts, even throwing things at him (If it had been Riftan who threw things at Maxi, there would have been a big uproar, and we would have criticized him for sure! But because it was her, we just laughed it off and didn't say that it was wrong). In reality, both of them need to sit down, open up, and share how they experienced those years apart. Riftan needs to explain why he's not ready to open up and trust her due to fear of being hurt again. And Maxi needs to explain how those years in Nornui were like torture (even though she learned a lot) and that all she was trying to do was come back to him, to become a better person for him. Remember that Maxi left to change, to not be what Rosetta said she would be – a broken doll destined to end up in the servile stance she had with her father. Maxi decided to change, but she never shared this goal with Riftan, never asked for his help. Yes, she left because she wanted to help him and grow, but at the moment of that decision, she didn't consider him. She'd complain when he excluded her from decisions, but she ended up doing the same thing. This is what sometimes makes me think we're a bit unfair with him – asking him for things we don't ask of Maxi when she's doing the same as Riftan. Yes, Maxi is our eyes and ears, but it's also true that when someone has personal conflicts, they're not a reliable source of information, and their views are often quite biased. I don't mean to say that I don't like Maxi as the protagonist – quite the opposite. I identify a lot with her; in fact, I share some situations and feelings, things I've worked on in therapy for many years and still continue to work on today. Growing and becoming a different person is tough, especially when you're broken and not predisposed for it. Changing for someone else's sake is sometimes an unattainable goal, and on the path of self-discovery and learning, we end up hurting people without realizing it. Alright, I tried my best to summarize my response as best I could. What we should acknowledge is that this is a fascinating story that continues to generate debates even though it's finished, and that's the beautiful part. If a book ends and nobody has anything to say, it's quite sad. Regarding the author and whether she lets herself be influenced or not, I think I mentioned this before – yes, she lets herself be influenced. That's true. But I believe she does it for both positive and negative reasons. We should also remember that this is a business. There are people behind it, publishing, printing, translating, drawing, essentially making money. And when money is involved, nobody, absolutely nobody, wants to kill the goose that lays the golden eggs. Right now, this story has exploded beyond the borders of Korea, becoming a global phenomenon. And when things like this happen, it's normal to ask the authors for more – bonuses, extended chapters, new characters, extras, etc., especially when it's a world with as many possibilities as KsJ has created.
Spoiler: : summary 112 Maxi go and tell everything to Riftan on how he always pushes her, doesn't let her do what she wants and wants too keep her secluded in the castle. Riftan grabs her arms and noticed that he is angry and think he is going to burst out but then put her arms down and makes a cold face and tell her," do what you wish". Riftan is ignore her and she does the same thing to him back, gets all her stuff from the room and changes to the mages quarter. Maxi focus on her all her work but can concentrate on what is all on her mind. Annette notices and tells her to have some rest. Maxi can have a distraction she gets out to get food or something but then notices a knight with Agnes all start following them around. Maxi ducks behind a tree and the knights turns around his eyes behind where is the tree and she notices that Agnes gets out a parchment paper and are discussing something serious and she remembers it was the same way, Riftan and Agnes were discussing. She notices the knight isn't Riftan and what she was thinking and then Elliot grabs her arms and notices is Maxi and he thought it was someone was eavesdropping. Maxi is noticing that Riftan is hiding her something from him and is maybe why he is acting cold towards her. She tells Elliot what both were discussing and he tells to tell the commander and Maxi knows to well that he won't tell her anything and that Riftan has kept them in the dark and won't tell her anything. She is already fed up that he hides thing from her and doesn't want to tell her anything, and so Maxi tells Ellen is he doesn't want to say anything to her, then she won't tell him anything. A couple days later passes the coalition army goes to Osyria and the soliders got compesanated go back home, so the army is in half. Now they are going to Osyria exciting chapters are going to come between Maxi and Riftan. Maxi thought she finally had the chance to talk to Riftan and break his walls but don't know what to do anymore with him. Maxi should make him jealous or do something reckless because with his actions, he is going to loose her. He is always pushing her for her protection but can't he see it hasn't work even in the past and when he does this actions, Maxi tend to act recklessly. He needs to stop hiding things from her, she is her wife and has the right to know everything, how everyone's knows everything except her. I can understand Maxi frustration with Riftan.
Yeap i disagree with Riftan this time around. He was the one who ran after Maxi when he heard she left the tower, now he is asking her to go without giving her any explanation. Come on u need to be consistent here Riftan. I totally understand he has his past traumas and pain that he still carry with him until now but this is not the right thing to do, it is simply immature. Furthermore i think our past traumas and pain should not define us of what we are today in a negative way, especiallly on how we treat other people. I feel pity towards Maxi, imagine if she really give up on him and go and not coming back. Their marriage will crumble down. They could be really get separated forever this time. Such a waste because they truly love each other. By the way my comment is specifically on this chapter. My opinion might change later when more chapters are unlocked, as not to spoil here
Spoiler: summary: 113 Maxi is really upset and takes her frustration on Uly and he was just helping. She is really angry at Ursuline and almost fell to do a spectacle but she hold her anger inside. Both were having a discussion on what transpired. Riftan comes and what was all the commotion but as Riftan treats her coldly, she is treating Riftan the same way back. She goes into her tent and hoping to hear Riftan but to no available, she really wants to work out things with Riftan. They have a long ride and make it to Osyria and the people are throwing flowers petals at them and Annette doesn't like it. Sidinia loves it as is once in a lifetime. She is excited at Osyria for fun events as festivals, the banquet. Annette really doesn’t like the fun. Sidinia asks Aren if commoners can go to the banquet and he says of course as anyone who was part of the war can join in. He says he would buy gown for the ladies, and Uly says Riftan would buy a gown for Maxi. Aren notices that Riftan hasn't treated Maxi as a wife. Maxi says she won't attend the banquet. I can feel Maxi frustration with Riftan attitude towards her he just always gives her the cold shot doesn't want to communication her, she has done everything try to reconcile with him. If Riftan doesn't treat her right someone else will and if this happens he will have regrets of loosing her. Oh Maxi will join the banquet and she needs to go with someone or make jealous Riftan so he can open his eyes and that he has a precious girl next to her than acting like an immature person.
The way Riftan treating Maxi on this 2 chapters are really frustrating. When he will be back to his senses and realize that this situation will only lead to his downfall. Anyway, thank you @MARSEA12 for the spoilers. Hope you had a great time at your Aunt's House..
@MARSEA12: Thank you, and yes, I agree. But those who already know how things will continue have an inkling of the beautiful things that are to come.. Have a great time at your Aun´ts House. Yes, but also our stubborn Riftan gets the enlightenment
Hello! I'm new to the forum and I just finished reading the 8 books on Amazon Kindle. I'm in love with this story which I found from reading the amazing manhwa! I have to say after reading season one side story and season 2 part 1 and 2, I am completely heart broken for Riftan. Riftan felt abandoned by Maxi and the wall he put ups up between them is torment and I do hope Riftan gets his story arc. Does this forum reveal updates from the completed novel in Korean? I don't think I can wait for the English version to come out as the stress and anxiety is too much. Poor Riftan I agree! I feel worse for Riftan. It seems Maxi never listens to Riftan and always get her way. She didn't even discuss with her husband about leaving him for 3 years. Riftan felt abandoned just like how he was abandoned by his Mom. I'm very frusturated with Season 2 so far. It's heart wrenching. It seems Maxi gets a story arc but Riftan has been stuck and not getting better. I agree! I feel worse for Riftan. It seems Maxi never listens to Riftan and always get her way. She didn't even discuss with her husband about leaving him for 3 years. Riftan felt abandoned just like how he was abandoned by his Mom. I'm very frusturated with Season 2 so far. It's heart wrenching. It seems Maxi gets a story arc but Riftan has been stuck in misery.
Hi, welcome to the forum. Spoilers and all kinds of useful info/links are on the first page of the forum
What is funny in this chapter is Ursuline called out Maxi’s behaviour for treating him resentfully after he interrupted Maxi’s n Riftan’s alone time a few chapters ago. I mean this guy is so honest and straightforward he doesnt care if it’’s the lady of Anatol that he is reprimanding when he gets mistreated . He doesnt understand why they are still cold to each other, because when Riftan heard Maxi is out from the tower, he sent a telegram to Ursuline in Anatol telling he’s going to Pamela Plateau and Ursuline knew that she was there, and Ursuline thought their relationship is good by now. Oh boy Ursuline u dont understand their relationship is more complicated than that. They wont reconcile so easily like that.
Thank you! I'm glad to finally have found a community who also love Under the Oak Tree! So, are the spoilers only for the books in English? Or are the spoilers for the completed novel in Korean?
Thanks and yes I had a great time at my aunt house. I thought I was going to be bored but I wasn't bored without any wifi. I came back 2 days ago from my aunt home, but thanks.
Hello everyone! It's great to see you back @MARSEA12, and thank you for the reviews on chapters 112 and 113!. I'm glad you had a wonderful time at your aunt's house! And a warm welcome to our new member, @Spidey1Fan Feel free to check out the first page for all the information you need, and don't hesitate to ask any questions or share your thoughts. We're here to make you feel at home and enjoy the discussions! Have a fantastic time! P.S. Is anyone here a gamer? I'm having a blast playing Baldur's Gate 3 like a kid, and I've fallen in love with the vampire Astarion. Sorry Riftan, but I think I've replaced you!
Thank you for the warm welcome. It's nice to talk to other fans of Under the Oak Tree! I'm very impressed with the notes and links from the first page. So, it's really true that the story was completed. That makes me sad as I want to read more books. I see that most people say the google translation is no good on Ridi so I best wait for the English version to be released on Amazon Kindle. Are fans happy to see how the story ended? I'm very tempted to read all the spoilers but I don't want to ruin the thrill of reading it for the first time. The anticipation is killing me for part 3 of Season 2. Riftan and Maxi's relationship is not the same as it was and it's ripping my heart. There's no snu snu and I have seen so much growth for Maxi since chapter 1 but Riftan seems to be stuck in feeling hurt and abandoned. Does it get better? Sorry if I'm asking the same question people have asked many times. I see I have over 900 pages to catch up on here!
Spoiler: summary:114. Maxi is in Osiria and Uly tells her if she is going to join the lodge reserved for Nobility and she says she won't that she is going to sleep with her friends and be in the mage quarters. Uly tells afterwards are you going back to Anatol? Maxi looks at Riftan by far having a conversation with Hebaron as always observing Riftan she see him handsome and Maxi felt as an old hag woman. She tells Uly why don't you tell that to Riftan. We have Riftan pov, at the beginning of his pov he has a discussion with the pope and royals and nobility of other Kingdoms. The King of Livadon seems to be a happy person and the King of Balto is an immature greedy person just like Breston. Their discussion was about the war and there's going to be a victory banquet but the King of Balto just care the spoils of the war. The pope tends to get irritated by the king of Balto. After they are done speaking with the pope and the monarchs of other Kingdoms, Agnes approaches Riftan that her dad has a meeting and wants Riftan to go, Riftan rejects to go and Agnes says it is important and Riftan tells her father can't do nothing about it. Riftan follows Breston and the King and after both are done with their conversation and starts following Breston but he caught him sneaking on him and Riftan has good reflexes and corners Breston. Riftan has a discussion with him about the war and what were his attentions. Richt is trying to break the peace treaty of the seven Kingdoms. What Breston did in the war, could've jeopardize Maxi. I understand why Riftan told Maxi to go back to the tower and pushed her away from his problems as anytime a an outcome war can come, but that is not way to do it, it was better to tell her everything but knowing Riftan Maxi safety comes first before others. Maxi did felt bad throwing her frustration on Uly but she still does it on him as he has any fault of both of your martial problems. Maxi is really irritated as she has hopes to reconcile with him. I was hoping Riftan pov had his thought of his argument he had with Maxi but it didn't, it was all about Breston and what are his intentions. Richt really can't stand that Riftan is way better than him and the way he caught you, he still could defeat you. You are not matching opponent with him.
Hello @Spidey1Fan! Yes, the story is indeed complete. If my memory serves me right, it ended around the end of last year. Honestly, the ending took us all by surprise because it happened from one week to the next, and it didn't seem like it would conclude in just one chapter. A lot has happened since then! The ending, without giving you any spoilers, was quite divisive. Some people loved it, some are still in denial, and there were those who initially hated it but eventually accepted it over time. Personally, I was taken aback by how abrupt it was at first. Then, in terms of content, it felt like a "slice of life" that was somewhat separate from the rest of the story. After the initial shock, I thought, "Okay, it's over," and accepted it. Of course, I would have liked it to be a bit more comprehensive, but due to various circumstances, including the author's physical and mental health, she decided to conclude it, and that's something we have to come to terms with. The ending highlighted that Korean fans were delighted, while Western fans were surprised and fell into denial. However, this led to a wave of insults directed towards the author, not from our forum but from other sources, which ended up causing more problems. Book 2 lacks some "snu snu," I'm sorry to give you this heads up. There will be a few specific scenes, but not as many as in book 1. The second book focuses more on political themes and on trying to mature the relationship between Riftan and Maxi, as well as their relationships with various other characters who appear and interact with them. As Manta put it, it really is "the most flawless love story of the flawed" both Riftan and Maxi grow and mature as individuals, and you'll see that reflected in the story. It won't be perfect, but don't worry, you'll get to experience it! (I'll leave you here the advertisement they did for the manhwa, this is what introduce me to this lovely couple and their world!) Haha, 900 pages is a lot! But if you want, you can follow the reviews that @MARSEA12 is doing, which are within the third part of book 2 as a paliative while we wait for Amazon to publish the third part on Kindle. You can also read the spoilers that the other girls posted about the chapters on RIDI, but sometimes they can be a bit confusing and might give you some anxiety, especially if you want to satisfy your curiosity and the complete material isn't available yet to clear up any doubts. But whether to read them or not is up to your own choice; only you know if you'll be able to resist the temptation of finding out how it ends or not! I hope I've been of help. If you have any questions, feel free to ask us! Have a lovely day! @MARSEA12, thank you for the new reviews, like always you are an angel!