Spoiler Under the oak tree

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    Guys when do Webnovel update under the oak tree , does it update differently depending where u live ( hope everyone is doing well )
     
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    Have you all seen the new video released from UTOT Archive?



    Kuahel is one of my favorite characters! I didn't expect to find new characters to love in Season 2 books. I think they got his looks spot on from the AI imaging. I think P's drawings of Riftan are perfect that when I see other images of Riftan it doesn't fit right. I think Hayden
    This video is also good!

     
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    Riftan threats Richt and believe him and King Hemidall are in something together, Richt and the King are trying to commit treason. Riftan feels like to kill him, he knows it isn't a good idea as it will create chaos. Richt wants to duel Riftan and After both are done talking, Hebaron is in the rail and must have seen everything between both. Hebaron tells him to tell everything to Maxi, but he doesn't want to her and Hebaron tells Riftan that you might loose her affection and Riftan would rather have Maxi go back to the tower. Riftan thinks of Maxi resentful eyes towards him and he rather have Maxi be resentful than telling her the truth and he does it all for her protection. Maxi is in a meeting with many people talking about the spoils of the war, don't let her speak as the Arex army is greedy for the money. She feels uncomfortable in that room as she is watching Riftan and Agnes together. Maxi is loosing hope if she ever would reconcile with Riftan. Annette tells her if she is going back to the Mage tower. Maxi is trying to make an excuse and Annette tells her, she doesn't want to see her talents be spoiled for a man who care a little less about her. Maxi gets angry but then she says Riftan used to be passionate and devoted to her, and there's a reason to his behavior. Annette question Maxi about Riftan behavior and Maxi must have found the answer and could be for her protection. Sidinia enters in the room with many gowns and says they will be attending the banquet tonight.

    Richt is trying to break the peace treaty, once his father finds out what he is trying to do it won't go well with him as he is a sole supporter of the peace treaty. Hebaron really gives good advice to Riftan and he knows it isn't the right to do. As for Riftan he thinks he is doing the best for not telling her anything and pushing her away not it isn't and many have seen your guys relationship and if you keep distancing her and not treating how wife should, someone would snatch her away from you and would treat her, how a wife should be treated. I blame Riftan Maxi having negative thoughts watching Riftan and Agnes together. Why does Agnes has to be everywhere with you and know everything and not Maxi, who suppose to know everything is your wife and not a woman you can't stand. Annette perspective she has seen Maxi and Riftan unfold and feels that Riftan isn't worth for her as he doesn't care for Maxi and she should stop pinning for him. As a reader perspective and those close to Riftan know of their relationship and Riftan does care for her, but what is he doing is keeping her in the dark and doesn't want to tell her anything. Annette tends to go into her relationship without knowing the facts and trying to pressure her to go back to the Mage tower, telling her to leave her man. Maxi needs to wear one of those gowns that Sidinia brought and attend the banquet with a partner and this time Riftan will take her seriously and maybe talk to her, if Riftan sees Maxi with another man, he will be going all jealous and will reality that he might loose her if she isn't treating her right.

    Maxi said the word used in past tense, she feels Riftan isn't affectionate towards her, how it used to be.

    Updates 3 days a week and it depends what region you live gets updated and time zone. As the region I am from gets updated, Sunday, Wednesday, Thursday at 7:00pm.
     
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    Yes I love it :giggle::LOL:
     
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    Riftan is showing his foul mood, cornering and threatening Richt to get the information about 7 Kingdoms Peace Treaties break attrempt and Hebaron’s noticing it. And he knows the reasons behind Rftan’s action is all because he is worried about Maxi.
    I love Hebaron’s words in this chapter, which i think he is more realistic and rational than Riftan. Maxi deserves an explanation too and she will understand the situation. But our boy Rifty said dont meddle with his marriage.
     
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    I agree with you on that point, it would not be chivalrous and King Reuben could not have been responsible for it.
    Reuben himself, however, I think would have let Riftan do just about anything Reuben would have been fed up with. That's why I don't like the character of King Reuben, although I think many rulers acted like him.
    As far as I know, Riftan didn't work directly as an assassin either, and when they did, they were criminals (such as Duke Croix:D). This time must have been before contact with Ruth. At the age of 16 he met Ruth on a monster hunt. Riftan's real job was to hunt and kill monsters.

    The escort for the Princess of Dristan must also have been in his mercenary days - or early days as a knight candidate - for she was very, very young. KsJ didn't express herself that precisely, or she didn't go into that time exactly. ;)
     
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    Updates 3 days a week and it depends what region you live gets updated and time zone. As the region I am from gets updated
    Riftan did spy work for King Reuben. He wasn't an assassin during his mercenary years or before he met Ruth, he was a child during this time.
     
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    This is a delicate topic, mostly because it involves personal choices and upbringing in private settings that we don't have access to or knowledge about. With that in mind, I can tell you that it's not surprising for your coworker to think that way. Our society tends to be open-minded about certain things and less so about others. Moreover, in a globalized world, not all societies evolve at the same pace, not to mention within families where different ideologies might take root.

    Let me give you an example from my family to explain better (although my family is like a soap opera, so I'm going to extrapolate an experience that I hope will be understood): My dad and uncle are very traditional, with a low view of women. My cousin, the "heir, the perpetuator of the family name," as they used to call him, had all the rights and was super spoiled by everyone. He was allowed everything and was never asked for anything. Then there's me, his sister and my sister, all women. We were demanded to do everything and more. In contrast to him, I finished school and went to college. When I told my dad I wanted to pursue a university degree, he literally said, "Why? So you can hang the diploma among the kitchen utensils?" That was all the support I got. (As a side note, I was supposed to be named "Cristian" even before I was born, you can imagine my dad's disappointment when he realized he couldn't use that name. He saved it for his second child, and that was my sister, so he could finally use it with his third child, my brother, the male child he desired so much and who is ten years younger than me.) My stepmother was always a frustrated woman who couldn't work or study because my dad wouldn't allow it (she was able to do so when my dad passed away). She felt valued when she finally had a son.
    My sister and I, having grown up in that environment, agree that men and women should have equal opportunities and be treated equally. However, my cousin, despite being a girl and having a similar family background, holds the belief that men are more valuable. This just goes to show that we never really know what's going on behind closed doors and what kind of ideologies take root in each person.

    Going back to Maxi and Riftan, I believe Maxi prefers a son not because she's sexist, a bad mother, or doesn't want girls. It's more about having a son who resembles Riftan, which is the embodiment of her love for him. People's psyches are complex, but I see it as the materialization of Maxi's complete and absolute acceptance of Riftan. She loves his exotic features that he despises so much because they make him feel out of place. Those features don't generate any rejection in her; she loves them, adores them, and wants her child to inherit them, to "perpetuate" them.
    We can't ignore the fact that Maxi was raised in a traditionalist environment. Her mother and stepmother suffered and died because of it. It's normal for her to desire a son since that idea was hammered into her head. We can't expect her to change her way of thinking overnight. She's still working on accepting herself, so imagine how long it might take for her to change other aspects of her mindset. Furthermore, I don't think it's a bad thing for her to want a son. It depends on each individual's perspective.
    Regarding her friends, particularly Annette, I find her the most unbearable. Sidina, on the other hand, seems more immature. Again, we don't know how they were raised; it's clear that it was different from Maxi's upbringing, therefore, their viewpoints and actions differ from those of her.

    With all of this, I want to say that even though our viewpoints may differ, along with those of the other girls in the forum, this doesn't mean that one of us is right and the others are wrong. We are all shaped by our experiences and life journeys, so it's logical that we see things differently.
     
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    I agree on the part where u said Maxi wants a son who resembles Riftan because she loves him, she adores on how beautiful he looks so producing carbon copies of him is a dream for her. Anyhow i also think Maxi will love her daughters as much as her sons regardless if they look like Riftan or herself. I am not worried that Maxi will play favoritism when she has both sons and daughters, she is a pure soul who is not capable of hating people who doesnt do her any harm. She loves her spouse and her friends so much that she is willing to die for them, so why would she treat her kids not equally loving?
    And i think Anette is a great friend, im still at chapter 95 in Webnovel when the 2nd war is happening, Anette is such a considerate person she always ask Maxi to take a rest when she saw Maxi is having fatigue for tending the wounded soldiers. She would always continue Maxi’s work so Maxi can rest. I think she is feeling appalled when seeing how Riftan is treating Maxi coldly so her comments and suggestions for her are valid as a friend because she cares for Maxi and she dislikes seeing Maxi sad and broken hearted.
     
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    Alright, @Selina-may and @MARSEA12, I found it! I went through all the files and finally found it! Thanks to @JosianeLoures who translated the Q&A generated by the translators or Google Lens a bit better. Unfortunately, KsJ's response doesn't say much, if anything at all, haha. But it does seem like Riftan did those jobs for the king. Still, I'm puzzled by the idea of a knight doing that, especially now I'm wondering if those who were assassinated were considered a threat to the kingdom or to the king? And if they were a threat to the kingdom, who were they and why? Now I really want to know!!
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    @Spidey1Fan, all your recommendations are added to my music list! Yey! By the way, I really liked the Kuahel video, and the AI-generated Kuahel is so stunningly handsome! but again, the voice takes me out of the fantasy! Why do they give them such monotone and boring voices? The voice actors don't put any effort or emphasis into what they say at all! Sheesh... By the way, I'll leave my other favorite song here, Cha Eunwoo's voice is so smooth, sweet, and romantic :aww:



    Also, have you noticed the change in Riftan's armor? In the first chapter of the manhwa, the length of the armor on his legs goes up to the knees. However, in the "Nobody else" video, where they used redesigned images from the manhwa, the length now goes up to the thighs. Which one do you like more? Personally, I prefer the length up to the thighs. I can't quite explain it, but it makes the design look more beautiful and gives him a stronger presence, elegance, and robustness.

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    Of the coworker she has and wanted sons is because she tend to talk back to much is why she doesn't want have any girls. The girls who say are talk backers are the most don't want daughters but prefer to have sons. I don't know if you come a culture having a son shows your worth, but what if the women has only daughters?

    Riftan isn't the only who doesn’t like his features and as for Maxi she doesn't like her own features, Riftan said he wanted a child that resembles alot like Maxi, he loves her features. I think differently why Max prefer a son, yeah she wants a son who resembles like Riftan but also daughters can resemble like their fathers take an example for Maxi she resembles like her father.
     
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    If Riftan retires of being a Captain Commander, who will be the next Captain Commander? I can see Hebaron being the next Captain Commander and Ursuline VC. I have read that many see Uly as the next Captain Commander, it was in her Q&A but I forgot what was her answer or did she answer of the question of Uly being fit to be the next CC:blob_sunglasses:
     
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    The armor in the music video is MUCH better! It's amazing to see how much the artwork has improved from season 1 to season 2 on Manta. Thanks P! I still love the art in season 1 it's just lot of detail in season 2. Don't Cry My Love is also on my playlist!

    I think the voice actors did a great job in this animation. Not exactly how I pictured their voices but better than the other voices used on Manta. I think Riftan's voice should be more young, definitely not too young. I picture Riftan's voice authoritative, sweet, confident, deep, gruff and sexy haha. A voice actor who has a big range of tone.



    Do readers think Riftan's story arc is completed in season 2? I'm only on Amazon Kindle release part 2 of season 2 now and Riftan seems entirely broken while Maxi had a huge growth and development in her character. I don't see a significant change in her arc compared to before she left for the Mage Tower compared to when she returned. But, for Riftan I see a big character shift in abandonment and hurt and I wonder if he will get an arc like Maxi?
     
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    Hey there @MARSEA12, I checked the Q&A again and the only thing I found about this is the following, which basically amounts to nothing, haha. Thanks to @MDE and @JosianeLoures for the translations, because those screenshots with those weird translations really strain the eyes, especially when there are strange words that I have no idea what they're referring to!
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    @Spidey1Fan I totally agree with you!! The change in the manhwa is noticeable, it looks much cleaner, elegant and detailed yet simple at the same time. Although I found it beautiful from the very beginning, it was one of the things that caught my attention as soon as I saw the Manta videos.(Another manhwa that I love for its artwork is 'How to Win My Husband Over.' Ruby and Iske are beautifully drawn, and the artist creates gorgeous compositions and uses very pleasant color palettes).
    Regarding Riftan's voice, I again agree with your description. The voice that comes to my mind is that of the Japanese voice actor Jun'ichi Suwabe. His vocal range is very broad, and he has a unique voice that I adore. I'm sharing the following video so you too can hear his voice, and also because I love Archer! :blobnosebleed:



    Don't worry about Riftan's character arc. I can tell you that it gets resolved, and you'll also see his development and growth. Maybe not as deeply as in Maxi's arc, but it can be inferred without any issues.:blobwink:
     
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    Right, that's what I meant.;)

    When asked about the future leader of the Remdragon Knights, for me it would also be 1st Hebaron, 2nd Ursuline or 3rd Elliot. :blobhero:



    Well explained and said, I agree with you on all points.(y)

    'How to Win My Husband Over.' I read the whole Novel, is so beautiful and the manhwa is it, too.:love:
     
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    I love How to Win My Husband Over too! I read the manhwa but not the novel yet but has fallen inlove with the manhwa. Ruby and Iske are both abused victims when they were younger and held trauma within them but they still open up to each other on almost all other matters. They do keep secrets about their traumatic pasts, but i love how they both always communicate when bad things or misundestandings happen and Iske is always trusting, protecting and defending Ruby eventhough this is an arranged marriage. The husband was really cold to his wife before but soon after he turns to be a loving one, they communicate a lot and that’s really great because i am really annoyed when couples dont communicate especially on important matters haha. And Iske is always considerate, he only make love to Ruby when she requested it and when shes really ready, not because of the pressure from the elderly.. my fav couple !
     
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    I'm really glad you liked my explanation and that we agree in some things.:blobsmilehappy:
    You know, I also read the novel of 'How to Win My Husband Over' and really enjoyed it; it's quite easy to read. It's much more concise and brief than what I usually read, but it's great. After reading the novel, I moved on to the manhwa, and I must admit I was pleasantly surprised by the adaptation of the novel and the artwork. I find the drawings to be really beautiful.

    As for the future leader of the Remdragon Knights, honestly, I can't imagine any of the current members taking over soon. Given Riftan's physical condition, I highly doubt he'll retire anytime in the next 10 years or more, especially now that he's a Count, he's not obligated to respond to every summons from King Reuben. That's why I don't see Hebaron, Ursuline, or Elliot taking over. My bet would be on the younger members, as that makes more sense, at least to me.:blobsmilehappy:

    I know, right? They are so cute!! I recommend you the novel; it expands on some themes and scenes a little more, giving you more background and depth into Ruby's character. Is it bad to say that my favorites are Poppo, Chirp Chirp, and Frosty? Hahaha, I mean, they are so cute!! And Poppo really seems incredibly fluffy!
     
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    Have you all seen this new video from UTOT archive? :blobdrool:



    QUOTE="Solcito, post: 7519269, member: 542928"]Hey there @MARSEA12, I checked the Q&A again and the only thing I found about this is the following, which basically amounts to nothing, haha. Thanks to @MDE and @JosianeLoures for the translations, because those screenshots with those weird translations really strain the eyes, especially when there are strange words that I have no idea what they're referring to!
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    @Spidey1Fan I totally agree with you!! The change in the manhwa is noticeable, it looks much cleaner, elegant and detailed yet simple at the same time. Although I found it beautiful from the very beginning, it was one of the things that caught my attention as soon as I saw the Manta videos.(Another manhwa that I love for its artwork is 'How to Win My Husband Over.' Ruby and Iske are beautifully drawn, and the artist creates gorgeous compositions and uses very pleasant color palettes).
    Regarding Riftan's voice, I again agree with your description. The voice that comes to my mind is that of the Japanese voice actor Jun'ichi Suwabe. His vocal range is very broad, and he has a unique voice that I adore. I'm sharing the following video so you too can hear his voice, and also because I love Archer! :blobnosebleed:



    Don't worry about Riftan's character arc. I can tell you that it gets resolved, and you'll also see his development and growth. Maybe not as deeply as in Maxi's arc, but it can be inferred without any issues.:blobwink:[/QUOTE]


    I just found these short videos and I think this is the best Riftan's voice I have heard so far! Not exactly what I imagined but better than the other videos. I haven't seen any new videos released like this one. Hopefully Manta will release more.



    I'm really glad to hear that Riftan's arc gets resolved. You have eased me mind. Season one part 2 has a huge cliffhanger and the noticeable difference in Maxi and Riftan's relationship is difficult to absorb in Season 2. No snu, snu. :( It's not the same as it was...:cry:
    I'm really angry Maxi left Riftan without talking to him first. :mad: That's a big break of trust and I can understand how Riftan is distant, abandoned and hurt.

    I wonder which art style they will go with the Anime. I think this manhwa will defintilely get an anime in a couple years. The comic needs to catch up to the books first. We don't want a one season anime with this story! A live action will be really hard to pull off. I asked my husband how he would produce it and he thinks starting the story from when they are children would be better for a tv series.
     
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    Maxi looks all the gown as if they came from royalty. She wants who it came from, was it from Sejuleu. It wasn't from him as there are many nobles who ate going to attend the banquet. Maxi see the dress, could've Riftan order, Sidinia tells Maxi is from King Reuben who is gifting her rose gowns as an apology. Maxi is trying to figure out what apology is about, then she remembers is the king mocked Maxi miscarriage. Maxi doesn't want to attend the banquet, Sidinia points her index finger and nags at her why she should attend the banquet. Maxi said, she has try everything with Riftan and won't open up, Sidinia tells her is that you need to use your feminine charms to get on with Riftan. Maxi doesn't understand, Sidinia tells her you need to attend the banquet who isn't Riftan and make him jealous. Maxi try out all the dresses but all are too tight on her, and she wears one of the dresses it shows her cleavage and she feels uncomfortable wearing an inmodest dress. Sidinia is thinking who should be her dance partner. Ully at first, he is too loyal to Riftan and acts a puppy who is wagging his tail. Maxi doesn't want to choose none of the RDKs as she dies want them to have a discord. Kuahel comes into mind to be her partner and Maxi doesn't want to as he is a clergyman, Sidinia tells her, many clergyman has secrets lovers as the current pope might be the illegitimate child of the predecessor pope. Maxi is awed, she can say something scandalous out loud. Sidinia found the right person to be her partner. She takes her where is Aren, ask her if she can be her partner to the banquet as Maxi will be attending alone as she has to do some urgent matters as a mage. Maxi begs him to be his partner and Aren know he is playing with fire and accepts her offer, holds her hand to go to the banquet.

    King Reuben gifts Maxi dress as to apologize for mocking Maxi miscarriage, he is doing it as Riftan holds a grudge to the Royal family and it wasn't the right thing to do make fun of Maxi miscarriage as she just was in a near death experience during the war. Sidinia told her what it is, she can't wait for Riftan, she needs to take action with him. Aren know Riftan will kill him once he sees him with his wife. Let's see Riftan reaction once he sees Maxi dancing with another man in the banquet and he needs to be seriously committed to her and if he isn't, she might ran to another man who will take her seriously and treat her right. What Riftan is doing know is just being distant with her and ignoring her with serious matters.
     
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    I am really gawking on my work PC waiting for your spoiler @MARSEA12 Hahaha! Thank you so much for spoiling us. I believe, tomorrow chapter is a breather.. :)