Spoiler Under the oak tree

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  1. Selina-may

    Selina-may Well-Known Member

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    Thank you for your lovely spoiler thoughts and it's nice to have you writing again;)(y):love:
     
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    I already edited all the spoiler chapter and wrote summary and I just hope I don't get ban again for writing summary.
     
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    No, no, @MARSEA12, they shouldn't, and I'll tell you why.

    When you want to delete content from a forum, you have to go to the database (DB) and input commands. In other words, you have to instruct the database on what information you want to delete. Generally, these commands are keywords. In this case, for example, they could be "chapter," "ch.," "CH," "MTL," etc. Once it identifies all the content using these keywords, they click delete, and it's done. This would be one method to do it, but let's say it's one of the simplest and most common ones. What happens when they do this? On one hand, it saves time, but on the other hand, it completely eliminates the human factor.

    The human factor would involve going through the forum post by post, reading them, and if you see content that violates the rules, you delete it. As you can understand, this method is a nightmare and consumes a lot of time. So, by directly manipulating the database, they save time, but they don't review the posts, they don't read them. Therefore, everyone who used those keywords gets banned.

    In your specific case, even though you included the word 'spoiler,' you used 'spoiler chapter 125,' and your title included the word 'chapter ' So, that word was recognized by the command, your post was deleted, and you were banned. Since they didn't review the content of your post at the time of deletion, they didn't know that you were writing reviews. When they looked into your case, they realized the mistake, and that's why they lifted the ban.

    So, with how you're currently titling the reviews and spoilers, there shouldn't be any problems. I hope I've explained things clearly because it can be a bit confusing, but in a simplified manner, that's how it works.
     
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    Maxi is shocked what Ruth told her about the dark mages and monsters. Ruth needs to report his findings of the records to Riftan. The dark mages wasn't behind the invasion of 3 years ago but the monsters. Maxi watches the knight running through the snow and she sees more unrest in the buildings. Dozens of knights were sitting in many table and having discussions. She heard Ruth that something must have happen. She could notice the tense atmosphere that something very serious must have happened. Ruth and Maxi ran across the hall and are about to go upstairs,they had notice Elliot is coming downstairs. Ruth tells Elliot if something has happened. Ruth wants to know what is going on and if there is a problem. Maxi see Elliot face expression and he was reluctant to share anything to her and was ready to rebuke him but then Ruth spoke first. Ruth wants to know where is Riftan as he wants to discuss something important to him. Riftan went to see the king, Elliot sigh and tells the truth, they have received news that many undead have spawned around the Eastern region and than many castles and villages haven been attacked, they are scrambling to send an army. Maxi is shocked on the information she received from Elliot. Elliot has to send a word to Anatol to form his men. Maxi tells Ruth if doing is from the monsters and Ruth answer most likely. Maxi wants to know how could these monsters create powerful magic of creating undead and cause destruction but then Ruth cuts her off and shouldn't be discussing in there. Then Maxi closes her mouth and she wanders around and was fortunate that no paid attention to them. Ruth goes to the Roemian palace with Maxi as the monarchs of the seven kingdoms are staying there and suspect that he will find Riftan in there. Maxi wants to know what Ruth was so concerned about is he hiding a bigger secret. All what she wants is escape the hardship by the side of Riftan. Ruth knows Maxi might find troublesome if she follows him to that room, if she wish to be spared from a headache, she can go back to her room. Maxi had to remind herself that all her efforts was to stand by the side of him. Maxi has courage, strength and wisdom and that it was enough of this essence that he leads the way. Ruth is smiling of Maxi descion. Many nobles were in King Reuben chamber and the problems more serious than Maxi thought. Ruth guess that Riftan must be meeting with King Reuben and they will wait until he comes out. They sat on a empty marble bench and the nobles had an eye on her, she isn't in the mood to socialize with anything. Maxi notices that Riftan came out from the king room she ran towars him. Riftan hears Riftan calling his name, he is surprised to see her there. Riftan wants to know what she is doing here. Maxi tells him she heard what happened in the East and questions him if the king order him to combat the monsters. Maxi observed his eyes, she was worried he was going to dismiss her and telling her it is not her concern. It didn't happen and wants to talk somewhere private. Riftan wraps his shoulder around her and that Riftan really meant what he said of facing anything alongside side her. She was filled with confidence and joy. They go into an empty room and Ruth wants to know how big is the damage. Riftan explains that the whole northeastern region, including the duchy of Croyso is in ruins and that a messenger of Croyso is here to seek military aid. In the past 3 years Maxi made the efforts to erase her dad and she never had thought of him once, since hearing about the turmoil in the East. She saw Riftan face with resentment. The duchy is not the only place affected, thousands of undead have been appearing around Lexos mountains and have been attacking closeby human settlements. Dristan and southeastern regions of Arex have suffered big damages and legions of undead been going other areas as well. Riftan wants to know why is this possible. Ruth can explain but it will take him 2 days. What Ruth can tell Riftan is the enemy has been planning all this a while ago. They have been planting dark magic across the continent while the coalition army was battling in the PP, it could've started earlier. Maxi is gulping in fear and Ruth explains that the invasion of 3 years ago was a strategic move of the foundation of all this. Maxi finds difficult to believe that monsters has planned this all ahead. Maxi was about to say alot but then Riftan spoke and wants to know what is the monster objective. Ruth doubts they are seeking revenge for the exiled mages or they want to occupy territories they destroyed. Riftan must have an idea what is their ultimate goal. Ruth has an inkling but before he tells what he discovered he wants a private audience with the pope.

    Maxi wanted to go back with Riftan to Anatol and have peaceful times with him. Peace has to be delayed because another war is coming. Maxi and Riftan had development, Maxi isn't the same girl who back down pr does it to please her husband. Riftan is telling her than pushing her away. Croyso got what he deserved as he done so much pain to innocent people. Riftan having resentment can mean more than that to Croyso. I am with Maxi Ruth hiding something big and is why he wants to talk to the pope before he speaks out and tells everything he decipher in the records.
     
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    Thank you friend! Great spoiler! I'm so glad Rif is including Maxi. And great job Ruth. He definitely knows something. Can't wait for more of the story to unfold.
     
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    Thank u Marsea for the detailed summary(y). Maxi seems sick of expeditions, wars and hardships already but she will endure it once again just so she could be near Riftan. Yes there are no longer dark mages they are all long dead but before their death they breed high intelligence monsters who are now creating the undeads. That is why i think in chapter 101 or 102 after 2nd war is over the knights found tombs in the monster’s city shrine@temple in PP, those tombs belong to the dark mages. No going back to Anatol yet but more adventures coming!
     
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    Ruth words took aback for Maxi, Riftan seemed to know why Ruth asked such a request. Ruth wants a public audience because a private is more difficult. The pope wants to assert his authority and he won't agree if they have something to offer him. Ruth tells Riftan to tell the pope he has the knowledge of the object they been looking for the past few years and that is better for the pope to comply his wishes if he doesn't want the problem to be bigger. Riftan question Ruth that he wants him to threats God representative. Ruth tells Riftan that is his specialty and he can't waste his time as he needs to talk to the pope today. If he refuses to speak to him, he is going to go the high priest. Maxi is shocked that Ruth asked Riftan to threat one of the top leaders of the seven kingdoms. Maxi is horrified and wants Ruth to tell everything than do something trivial to the pope. Riftan cuts off Maxi and will request an audience for him. Maxi heard some footsteps and in the hall and she could tell someone must have eavesdroped. Ruth will explain everything after he has spoken to the pope. Maxi figure out why Ruth was being cautious, The grand basilica of Osiria is in a battlegrounds for many factions, the friction between the Orthodox church and Reformed church, the struggle powers between the monarchs and the nobles are vying for favor and the servants acting as spies for few pieces of coins. He is going to see Father Lugia and wants both of them to stay there. Ruth has mentioned that the church is looking for something and with his cryptic tone it isn't about the dark mages but something else. Maxi had alot of questions and is relieved when she see Riftan out of that room. The pope has agreed to speak with Ruth. Riftan warns Ruth that he was angered by his words and don't expect to him to tolerate his insolence as Riftan tolerate it, that he might find himself facing the gallows for blasphemy. Ruth is greeting his teeth and appreciate his warning. Ruth is going to go and speak to the pope but the look of the ones who escorted Ruth it seems his information to the pope is highly dangerous. Maxi wants Ruth to take Riftan words at heart and he doesn't offends the pope. Ruth tells Maxi does she takes him as a child and that the audience won't take long and he will be back fast enough and that she doesn't need to worry. Maxi asks Riftan shouldn't they both go with him. Riftan tells her that she shouldn't worry and that he is fine himself. Maxi has questions for Riftan and he knows what Ruth discovered. Riftan can tell that the Reformed church is hiding something. Ruth tells her everything of what the Temple Knights have been finding in the past three years throughout the kingdom. At first then thought it was the remanant of the monsters as they made a further investigation it was an object. Maxi can see Riftan hesitating as he is torn between protecting her from harm or tell her everything. Riftan tells her of him before leaving to the campaign he instructed Ursuline to investigate the activities of the TKs. Aren and Agnes were involved in the investigation and because of that they were able to learn important information. Maxi has witnessed countless conversations between Riftan and Agnes and she felt angry that she was left in the dark about everything. Maxi put her emotions aside and want to know what did he learn? Riftan explains to Maxi of what happen in the basilica three years ago with the treasurer and the TKs. Maxi tells Riftan if he believes something was stolen. Riftan believes that is the conclusion makes sense and that years ago those monsters who created the undead must have stolen something. The previous pope kept it a secret. The new pope asked the TKs to find and retrieve it as they pledge allegiance to him. Maxi tells Riftan what he thinks was stolen? Riftan believes was something dangerous that it could cause condemnation. Riftan being affectionate to Maxi and doesn't want her to worry and whatever happens he will always protect her. Maxi also will protect Riftan. Riftan tends to underestimate Maxi affection towards him, she will show the extent of her love no matter of it takes long. She gets out of her chair and sits on his lap and embraces him and Riftan embrace her back. Ruth comes out of the room and was he all right or did they mistreated him. Ruth wasn't given a warm reception but it wasn't bad as he expected. There's going to be an emergency council soon and a coalition will be formed in few days and need to prepare for campaign. Maxi expected but her heart sank. Riftan wants an explanation from Ruth. Riftan already has and idea and nobody nows how the monster army infiltrated the basilica and stole Sektor magic stone. The stone was empty because he used his whole mana in the final battle. The monsters are behind the erratic weather and their goal is to resurrect Sektor.

    More of Riftan character growth he was in dilemma if to tell the information to Maxi but then he did, if he didn't Maxi will discover the info by someone else. I am with Maxi Riftan shouldn't kept her in the dark and should've tell her everything as she is his wife. Maxi will protect Riftan it seems Riftan was taken aback when she said it, he knows she can be reckless but Riftan she is showing that she loves you and he even underestimates her affection, it could be due to his insecurities. Maxi is initiating and showing it to Riftan, if she just said, "I love you". To him. It will make such a difference. Another war coming but this time Riftan and Maxi are going to be by the side each other and Maxi will help him. Of the stone being stole it seems it is an inside job or there must be a traitor. I can see why Riftan defeated the dragon as Sektor used his whole mana and the stone became empty. If the dragon gets resurrected, I don't think Maxi will go with Riftan and battle the dragon, I believe she is going to help in the rear.
     
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    Hello, hola, ola, halo all beautiful spoiler angels ;) Happy Friday, feliz viernes, boa sexta feira, glücklich Freitag. I wish everything is fine! @MARSEA12, obrigado. I must confess that I like the 2nd book of UTOT better than the 1st coz' I always love the idea of couple fights together! Furthermore, the 2nd book signifies our couple maturity not only their character but also relationship. It's a bit sad coz' dear Kim Soo Ji decides not to talk bout' the real identity and origin of Riftan's mom and dad. However, I know that she might have her own purpose. Tomorrow, it's going to be the end of September here, guys :love: I can't wait for Uslyn's POV and Calypses' side stories. Wish our beloved author and all of you stay safe, healthy and joyfully. By the way, I think several members have perhaps deleted their account (n). I wonder where some of our old members are.
     
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    Hi @athena1979, I don't think those members deleted their accounts. Maybe their posts were deleted, and they were banned in the forum cleaning last week.:blobconfused::facepalm:

    Have you seen this? It's sooooo Riftan!! hahaha
    https://youtube.com/shorts/LPStoISUM04?si=cS1CaoCAD1t8ZOqT
     
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    The webtoon tends to skip alot from the novel. I was hoping to be drawn but it wasn't. I prefer the novel over the webtoon. If chapter 119 ever gets drawn I believe it will skip alot of it as this webtoon is R-15.
     
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    I prefer the novel as well(y), although I really like the drawings in the manhwa. The same applies to me with Htgmhoms, the novel is also very good and detailed.

    However, I had a lot of fun today with the latest Manhwa chapter, especially about Riftan:ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO: and Maxi was beautiful to look at. :aww:
     
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    Well, that's normal, they can't draw the entire chapter word for word, so they create a storyboard where they outline the main points of each chapter in a way that includes the most important parts, what people can't miss, so that's why some things are skipped. Since it's R-15, the steamy chapters will be a collection of scenes and that's it.

    I'm having an issue with Riftan's drawing this week, I mean, I love the shy and bashful Riftan, but when I see the drawing, it doesn't look like him, it looks really weird! I'm not sure what it is, but his face looks strange, and I'm not enterily convinced.:blobtired: Isn't the head too small for his hand and arm lenght? :hmm:
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    Maxi looks gorgeous, but I don't like the chains on her waist. It was supposed to be a simple outfit, and I feel like those chains are out of place. I start to overanalyze it, thinking that maybe they have a double meaning that I'm not understanding because they are quite prominent and catch my attention! I can't overlook them! :facepalm:
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    Hey Okies! I feel like I have been gone for a long time! The weather has cooled down early this year in California. The last couple years we had bad fires in October so I'm happy to have the cool early Autumn weather.

    I loved this recent manhwa ch. 75 chapter! I know it feels so short compared to the book but that's to be expected with a comic adaptation. I love P's illustrations so much. The manhwa is what introduced me to the books so P has really captured me to UTOT. I do think the comic does take the most important key elements from the books. Too bad the manhwa isn't 18+ like the novels. You think under 18 year olds won't read the books?

    I'm glad to see @MARSEA12 back!

    Hey @Solcito that picture of Riftan is not in my chapter on the Manta App. I think that is a glitch in the system and should be in next week's chapter because it doesn't look like a completed version of Riftan. There are red diagonal lines going across his face which looks like it's not supposed to be there? From where the chapter leaves off on my end that should be in next week's chapter. What part in the comic did you see that picture?
     
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    Welcome @Spidey1Fan! I missed you! I must admit I was worried if something had happened to you. I'm glad to see that everything is alright. ^^
    P publish those images on her Twitter account! The images are finished, and the thing that threw me off with Riftan are the proportions; his head is indeed very small for the rest of his body! The diagonal red lines on the face are used to emphasize, in graphic media, when someone feels shy, bashful, embarrassed,etc. ::blobcatsmile::
     
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    I'm sorry Solcito!! I should've checked in earlier. I'm sorry I worried you. I'm okay!

    I can imagine that drawing is "she will not lend me to you" haha. I have to say P's illustrations are perfect! I noticed for S3 illustrations that Riftan's body is a lot bigger compared to his head. Maxi's body also looks more slender. Each season the illustrations change overtime. The first season the characters looked a little more tooney with Riftan and Maxi looking younger and now they look much larger and older.


    Thanks @Selina-may for sharing! I like your breakdown of all the Knights. Perfect analysis for each man. Ruth, Maxi's first friend. <3
    I like the image you shared of Ruth and Maxi.
     
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    Just read the new episode. I agree she kept out some parts and changed the story line but I know why she did it. I'm happy she kept the scene with Hebron, Gable, Rif, and Elliot. I laughed when I read that scene in the book where Gabel and Hebron are trying to go with Rif to the festival and poor Elliot gets dragged into it instead. :ROFLMAO:

    I can't wait for next weeks episode! It's going to be funny seeing Maxi's jealousy and Rifs inability to handle it well. Then he's going to sweep her away when she mesmerized him with her beauty. :love: I hope P does the scene justice.

    Hey friends. Wanted to share a recommendation for another webtoon called "Cry, even better beg". I found the spoilers online for the entire novel and it's a really sad story, but has a happy ending, although the happy ending is up for interpretation. Lots of fans think ML & FL shouldn't be together after what he did to her and how young she was when he was attracted to her and wanted to make her cry. She was 12 and he was 18. o_O not good. Many think she should have ended up with 2nd ML and personally I agree, but that how most of these angst romance novels go.

    Anyways, the reason why I am recommending it is because of the art of the webtoon. It's so different and beautiful. I haven't seen another webtoon that has this art. It somehow looks more realistic. I remember someone shared some fan art on here that an artist posted on Twitter of Riftan and Maxi and it had a very realistic feel to it. That's what this art reminded me of. You can tell by the title how the story is going to be. It's right there with the problematic prince, bastian, and the mistress runs away. So beware if you get hurt with thise types of stories. It hurts me too so idk why I keep reading them, but I do.(n):notworthy: I'm just a sucker for romance even when it hurts.
     
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    @emdl07 I'm really glad they kept the part of Hebaron and Gabel wanting to go to the Festival and Riftan said, "No, I won't have any women with your children coming to my door." That part made me laugh in the book. I do think P and their team do an excellent job keeping the important lines and scenes from the book into the manhwa. I mean, the pressure and daunting task to illustrate can be stressful. They probably have strict deadline now that there is an anime in the works. The manhwa needs to be well ahead for an anime to premiere. I asked ChatGPT cost for an anime and for a cheap production it's $100k-$300k per episode!!! A standard is $300k-$500k per episode and a high-quality anime is $1 million to $3 million to per episode. I'm curious how the anime production company makes money off the manga and merchandise if the manga is owned by a different publishing company? I'm very curious why Yona of the Dawn didn't get a second season because in my opinion there's a lot of bad anime and how they keep getting more seasons?

    I agree @emdl07 that P's illustratons are a high quality compared to other manhwa I have read. P's work is truly out of this world and I like the realism. Maybe P is going for more realism throughout the seasons as the story is going to get more serious and complex?

    From my interpretation of readers who read the official English translation they definitley agree that Riftan and Maxi should be together. At least on Webnovel the readers seem to understand Riftan a lot more. I'm making an assumption that a young audience doesn't understand the complexities of a marriage while the mature readers have more empathy for Riftan. Reading Riftan's POV, especially, book 2 chapters of his pov you can understand his decisions a lot better. By no way means does Riftan ever treat Maxi bad ever. Riftan is not a liar, manipulator, physical or emotional abuser. Riftan has empathy and always apologizes and recognizes how his actions hurt Maxi. He's only overprotective for good reasons. He witnessed her on death's door and personally saw the blood all over Maxi from her miscarriage. Riftan thought Maxi was going to die and had to see her lose their baby in front of his eyes. That does a lot to a man and makes him believe that Maxi shouldn't be with him. I think you are talking about their wedding night which turns off a lot of readers?? I personally was turned off when I first read the manhwa chapter. It was cringey but I'm glad to eventually pick up the story again. Maxi was 19 and Riftan was 25 for their wedding night. When Riftan was 12 he saved Maxi from a monster when she was 6. My husband started to read the books and he also doesn't like Riftan from the wedding night but I told him to just keep reading. But, he likes how the characters are complex and not so black and white.
     
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    Oh my goodness. I didn't know it cost that much to make one episode of an anime. That's a lot of money! Wow, no wonder all of these stories don't get one. I'm glad UTOT is going to have one and I really hope they find a way to get it top their level.

    I'm so sorry I think I may have not made something clear. I was recommending another webtoon called "Cry, better yet beg" when I was discussing the art style and uneasiness of the relationship between the two main lead in this different story. I went back and re read my post and realized I didn't make myself clear. Haha my bad. :blobsweat_2: sometimes I'm writing as I'm thinking/talking in my head and don't realize I'm not making it clear.

    I agree with you, those that have read the UTOT novel have a better understanding and there is a big difference in how the novel is precieved by younger audiences versus more mature audiences. I also think that those who have only seen the webtoon and not read the novel have an even bigger misunderstanding. Even though both Rif and Maxi have their traumas and both have done good and bad things, I have no issue with them as a couple or how they got together at the age that they were. We know Rifs attraction to Maxi when he was younger was innocent and just a means of escape fron his sad life. (That was not the case in the other story I recommended). Other than the lack of communication and misunderstanding I like Maxi and Rifs relationship and want more. Can't wait for the side stories.

    I edited my last post. Hopefully I made it clear I was referring to another story :blobsmirk:
     
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    I'm sorry! Lol my bad. I'll have to check out that story. Riftan gets so much hate from manhwa readers now. :( Makes me so sad. Do you think it's better for the manhwa and anime to do more cut scenes to Riftan's pov or stict strictly to the novel and have Riftan's pov way later in the story? I do like P's black and white cut scenes in the manhwa of Riftan watching Maxi. I think it's good. However, I also like how Suji Kim doesn't release Riftan's pov until main events after book 1 and midway to book 2 and apparently Ethlene castle after book 2. By the way I just read that pov and it freaking hurt like hell. Why didn't I think of his pov like that before? What do you all think?

    Hey! Part 2 of UTOT Zodiac character signs went up!

    https://www.youtube.com/shorts/A1wZP4dhA1c

    I think this channel does a really good job releasing content on a consistent basis.