Spoiler Under the oak tree

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  1. IraHera

    IraHera Well-Known Member

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    You are getting better in summarizing snu snu chapter @MARSEA12 hahaha.. :) Thank you for the spoiler. Please keep it coming hahaha :)
     
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    Thank you MARSEA for your well-done summary from CH 135.:blobrose:

    It's natural for Riftan to be cautious and try to stay put, he doesn't know what's to come. I find the tenderness that is currently taking place between the two of them very, very beautiful.:aww:

    Richt: I also hope that this Nordic idiot will "keep his feet still" and won't do anything stupid, otherwise Riftan would probably have no mercy on him either (at least I wouldn't have it:blob3cevil::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:).
     
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    Hello Oakie friends! @Delina this is a great summary!

    Thank you @MARSEA12 for your summaries. I don't know why but my webnovel app doesn't load the commenting sections fast and does your app load slowly too for reading and typing comments?

    I don't mind the book ending with our couple not having children. I think because Maxi and Riftan had a devastating loss of their child in book one for Maxi's selfless actions to save everyone at Eth Lene Castle makes the readers want them to achieve that happiness.
    Riftan telling Maxi he doesn't need children after Maxi's miscarraige really shows how much he cares about Maxi. They both can still be happy together with children or not, their love is so strong for one another. I'm very curious to see them as parents in a future side story. But, I do want more adventures of them together without children.

    I don't mind the book ending with our couple not having children. I think because Maxi and Riftan had a devastating loss of their child in book one for Maxi's selfless actions to save everyone at Eth Lene Castle makes the readers want them to achieve that happiness.
    Riftan telling Maxi he doesn't need children after Maxi's miscarraige really shows how much he cares about Maxi. They both can still be happy togethr with children or not. I'm very curious to see them as parents in a future side story. But, I do want more adventures of them together without children.
    This is a really good summary @MARSEA12 ! I laughed out loud when I read "thingy". I still don't know the appropriate terms to use on certain platflorms to not get banned. Some nicknames people might get offended.

    I'm so glad Suji Kim gave us a snu snu chapter! This was a HOT chapter! For a while I thought there wouldn't be anymore snu snu chapters after the week long snu snu. It was a good chapter because Maxi brought up her concern that she isn't desirable to Riftan as he was so restrained on the Pamela Plateau. Oh, how little does she know how much Riftan wants her 24/7. What a difference compared to book one that Maxi is expressing her emotions. In the past she wouldn't have said her feelings and always said "I'm alright". Their marraige has grown so much!

    Riftan is definitely being responsible to not get Maxi pregnant during the war. I do wonder if Maxi did get pregnant I think she would still want to be next to Riftan's side. Would Maxi fight him on that or agree to go back to Anatol? I know this wouldn't happen in the story but I always wondered that in the future. Is the only exception for Maxi to not be on campaigns and war with Riftan if she was pregnant? What if they had kids and Riftan had to go on a campaign? Will Maxi trust the children's attendants?
     
  4. Delina

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    I dont mind if Riftan and Maxi have no child too. I think if we can relate to the current situation we have modern day couples who have no kids, not that they dont want to but they are having infertility issues. This is a fantasy book where they are in the era with magic, dragons and monsters but i think KSJ wanted the characters to be as human as possible, which definitely have flaws. Not that im saying infertility is a flaw, but it is a common problem nowadays - as i googled there are 1 out of 6 people in this world are having this issue, but in modern days they still can conceive through IVF and such technologies.
     
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    Yeah, infertility is a big issue now. People don't talk about it too much. If you think about it, Maxi and Riftan were only together for one year before she left for the MT. Maxi had irregular periods, years of malnutrition, abuse and extreme stress. Maxi wasn't in a healthy state for getting pregnant when she first arrives in Anatol. I think Maxi got pregnant during their week long sail to Levan. Maxi said that week was the happiest time of her life. For a moment Riftan and Maxi had no worries of Knights, Monsters, War or duties. Then Maxi wasn't reunited with Riftan for a few months after that trip. I do think they will eventually have a baby when they get a break from the war.
     
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    I don't know if Android or Apple is the same, I use android and have the same problem sometimes with the comments section, it could be that Webnovel did the new update on their app and don't like it. Also I am curious what kind of parents they will be, I am more curious what kind of mother would Maxi be if she were to have daughter as how she was raised by the duke being obsessed having a male heir, and have seen many posts how everyone wants Maxi have a son, and Riftan having a daughter would be a daddy's girl but I am different how I think than most readers.
     
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    Maxi and Riftan having no child being happy togethr would be beautiful and children don't fix a couple, and also many couples who can't make children will adopt children. I like the idea of them adopting a son as Riftan can rembering his past that he wasn't burden, his stepfather raised him and he really loved him, just as he would love his adopted son.
     
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    WOW steamy steamy chapter! Thanks again @MARSEA12 !!
     
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    Hi all!

    Remember a while back I recommended a webtoon called "Cry, better yet beg" because the art was so beautiful? I take it back. If you don't want your heart to hurt, stay away. :cry: I had read the spoilers and knew it was a sad story with a "happy" ending. But I just finished reading the novel, and it is hard to get through. It didn't hurt me as much as book 1 from UTOT, but it's still pretty bad, in my opinion. Personally, I don't think the redemption arc was enough to make up for what ML did. It was malicious and disgusting. And they way FL just accepted it in the end just didn't sit right with me. I haven't gotten to the epilogue and side stories which from the spoilers will be all love and fluff. I'm hoping I'll find some sort of peace in those chapters, but I just can't get my head around what happened. So be warned. Idk if I'll even continue with the webtoon after what I just read, even if art is pretty art.
     
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  10. honeybuttergarlic

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    Hi, how have you been?
    Some news about KSJ's next work and UTOT.

    1. All of KSJ's next novels (Roem Empire background novels, modern romance fantasy) webtoon production has been decided.. I don't know who it is yet, but in the latter case, KSJ is a artist who has wanted to work with him for a long time.
    Usually, when a novel is completed, it is produced after that, but seeing that webtoon production was decided in the process of writing the novel, I can feel the popularity of ksj.

    2. About the side story,
    In Korea, 1 book came out together and 2 books were delayed due to Ksj's other schedule. We will refine and organize the sentences step by step and publish one book every month from December to March. And she going to write a side story from March.

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    And I was annoyed by people who saw UTOT's fan art on Twitter and said UTOT ddon't deserve a fanart get.I think it's an act of insulting the artist who drew the fan art. even captured our forum. they said don't understand the number of pages.
    I think people are very rude these days. If it's not your taste, you have to stop thinking there, but you gossip and undermine.
     
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    I understand you, but if I were in your place, I would continue with the webtoon. Often, adaptations change novels. I recently finished reading the novel "Marriage of Convenience," and I liked it. Of course, some things felt common to this type of novel about contractual marriages, but the webtoon, I must say, adds a twist and makes it more entertaining. Besides, the artwork is beautiful. While the essence of the story is the same, the way it's presented is different, and I must confess that I personally prefer the manhwa over the novel. Maybe the same will happen with 'Cry, better yet beg! You never know!
    Hi Honey! Thank you so much for the news! I'm a little bit lost with the fanart part. Who were the ones complaining? Is it related to the original artwork? Honestly, I've been super busy with my in-laws at home this week, so I skimmed through things and didn't pay much attention. I did see some tweets about the original UTOT cover. Was that what caused controversy, or was there some kind of fanart contest?
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    This is the image that I saw causing problems on Twitter this week. Apparently, some people are upset because it's 'too good of an image for a crappy story like UTOT.' I must say that the people who say that are idiots, and no one should pay them any attention. They are attention seekers who love to spread their negativity because they don't have anything better to do. The best course of action is to ignore them.
    I think the artwork is nice and eye-catching. The color palette and the lines are well-defined. Perhaps there's a bit too much 'gold and ocre,' making everything look quite uniform, but I believe it's intentional. What stands out the most are Riftan's blue cape and Maxi's red hair, but upon further analysis, Maxi's hair should stand out a bit more because it gets a bit lost with the background. Although I'm not particularly fond of the style, I still find it gorgeous.
     
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  12. Selina-may

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    @honeybuttergarlic, thank you very much for the information.:blobrose:

    To 1.
    It's fantastic with the webtoons, I'm very pleased, even if they're all only published in English again.

    To 2.
    It's also nice with the side stories that we have to wait longer, that's just the way it is. I just hope that the missing parts (novel) of book 2 will now be published continuously.

    To ++.
    You know, there are always people who can only complain and know everything better, unfortunately. And they will always be there. However, we don't have to listen to them and simply ignore their bad opinions.;)
     
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    I liked Marriage of Convenience webtoon too. I haven't read the novel yet but now I'm curious what the twist is.

    Thanks for the advice. I'll think about continuing the webtoon. Might wait until they finish it, idk I'll think about it. It really is just too painful, for me at least. It was very dark and like I said ML was so disgusting for pretty much the whole book until the end. The author explains why he is that way and I understand, but still doesn't make it right. If the webtoon can lessen the severity of what he did, then maybe. I read the other two novels from the author, and they weren't as dark as this one, so I wasn't expecting it to take it to that level. All MLs were jerks, but this particular ML from Cry, Better yet beg, is a crazy heartless obsessive cruel psycho.
     
  14. MARSEA12

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    My sister told me that she read somewhere that this author tends to write toxic MLS in her novels.
     
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    I figured that out after reading all 3 books. They were all horrible. I know to stay away now. Yeah I hurt with UTOT, but the situation was different.
     
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    I have seen predictions out there if Maxi were to have a son and is a clone of Riftan she would remember him as the boy of the past who saved her. I don't like that prediction, I prefer them talking about it before they have children, also Maxi doesn't remember that past due to trauma and Maxi said that she won't push him to open up until he is ready and Riftan doesn't care if she remembers, what he cares her happiness and doesn't want her to relieve trauma again. What if the readers don't get what they want and it's go the opposite.
     
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  17. honeybuttergarlic

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    think of her writing style, Maxi won't remember the boy who saved her. of course side story. it was deliberately ruled out. utot follows Cliche steadily, but leads the story with anti-Cliche elements in between. The biggest example is that they didn't say "I love you" until the end. Instead, they heard more than that each other.
     
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    Elliot tells the knights to form in battle and the knights do a formation as to be prepared to attack any undead. The knights drew their swords and looking around the surrounding areas and Maxi was gathering mana to cast a shield. Ruth tells her to not be alarmed as those are the remains of the ghouls that were purified. Maxi on her horse saw Ruth crouching down on the ground and inspecting the bodies of charred corpses, he was using a spirit stone to gage mana out around their bodies. Ruth gets up and it seems those bodies have been already purified, there must have been some people before them. Maxi in awe that Temple Knights must have been there. It was the work of the paladins of tracking the dark mages or the local temple of the guards of the region. Maxi head was up and noticed it was Riftan. He watches as the snow didn't buried the bodies, the battle must have been recently and they must be at their way to Darund. If that is the case, they need to hurry before they reach the undead army. They all resumed their March, and they were in an area with such destruction, the field was trampled with dirt, destroyed buildings and blackened humans remains. Maxi gasped and saw that there were more than thirty bodies scattered around the ground. She sees the field, there must be more than that of bodies. Most of the peasants who live in that are have been slaughtered. Elloit cautions her that she needs to be prepare to cast a barrier. They reach to ransacked farmland and black smoke that went above the sky and many monsters were around the citadel, like an army of ants. Riftan commands his archers to position. The archers throw arrow with fire above the sky and hits the monsters. She watches as the cavalry and the monsters battling each other with Riftan in command as Maxi seeing this battle unfold, she barely could contain a scream rising from her throat. The cavalry were clashing with an army of monsters and with the clash threw the monsters threw the air and Maxi couldn't comprehend at all. Riftan swung his sword at the monsters, and the monsters that fall on the ground Talon crushed it with his hooves. Ruth is relief that the knights don't require their assistance. Maxi then watches the Northerners and see Richt with a massive swords and the Northerners battle with the monsters it didn't seem as a battle but more of a massacre. A child ran down Maxi spine as Breston follow Riftan loyalty but it could change any time and the knights of Phil Aaron turned against them, they could be the next target. Maxi turns back and see the Remdragon Knights still battling with the knights and some men's burn the remains to prevent from the ghouls regenerating. Maxi turns to Ruth and tell his, shouldn't they do something, cast a barrier, or assist with the offensive? Ruth answer back that magic needs to be used carefully when their forces are in combat, intervening recklessly could cause more harm than, suddenly Ruth stops talking and puts a barrier in front of them. An enormous skeltons comes from the ground and swings a hammer made of Ice. Maxi backs away and the skelton swings down the mace to the shield, with Ruth quick action saved her from a fatal flow. Ruth shout to protect the wagons. Maxi ran to the wagons and summon a large barrier of how much her mana would allow it, even the mages of the Wedonian army and the knights of Phil Aaron did the same thing. Their actions proved to be hasty an army skeltons came beneath the ground. Maxi dreamed when a skelton hand took of hold of her under the ground, and the skeletal hand took her ankle and tried to kick it, she took her sword out and crushed through the skelton and the bones of the skelton falled apart. Maxi leaps to the wagon, she takes down her shield, then she was going to summon a new one, then eight skeltons came from the ground and were going to charge on her. She quickly circulated her mana, manifested mere before seconds the monster ice maces struck, there wasn't a moment to relax as an ax swooped to her left, pressing her back against the wagon, she was gathering her whole mana. Maxi was in daze and Riftan leaped out of Talon and with his shield crushed the skeltons, as Riftan rose from the pile of bones of the skelton, he does a fierce look to Maxi towards his visor. Why isn't she fortifying her shield? Maxi comes back to her senses and she expands her shield to cover the wagons, Riftan hammers more monsters coming from up a hill and Maxi has never witnessed a horrifying sight. Riftan with his weapons shatters more than ten skeltons in pieces. Maxi doesn't know the full extent of her husband's abilities, she has heard all praises of his powers, but it was the first time she has ever seen him fight closely.

    Maxi sword training did take into effect even she isn't good at it and she didn't closed her eyes as she always does, I think is the second or third time she does it, but she still screams, she has a long way to go in battlefield and once she will stop being afraid. Riftan came to her rescue and everytime Maxi is in near death experience and Riftan saves her, he would shout at her and this time he didn't and was helping her what she needed to do in battle. Maxi is why Riftan earned the title incarnation of Rosem Wigrew and you saw how the Northerners fight savagely and don't want to think if Richt ever goes against Riftan, you just saw him in battle and he would defeat Richt in hours. The writing of the battle was so descriptive, I can imagine the picture in my head, KSJ really good writing battle scenes.
     
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    emdl07,
    Only read what you like and feel good about, put everything else aside. You don't have to read everything.
    I, for example, had to swallow quite a lot when I started reading the story "disobey the duke if you dare". I felt very sorry for Lily and found it difficult to imagine how a parent would treat their own child like that.
    My tip for you, read the novels for a bit and then decide whether you want to continue reading them for yourself or not.:love:


    MARSEA12, I like this novel as it is, that's what defines the author and, in my opinion, she should only write the side stories the way she wants. What should happen to the readers who don't like it? You just stay away and read something else, quite simply. And if Suji Kim receives hostility as a result, then she should close the “channel/chat or twitter”.

    Honey, right, I remember that too. It would also be enough if she spoke of the "child", whether male or female it doesn't matter. Clichés or not, it's her story and only she has the right to write it the way she wants. There are enough readers who love her novel.
    If you have the opportunity, please give Suji Kim our warmest regards :blobrose:
    and ask her not to influence herself and write the way she imagines.
     
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    I like Disobey the duke, If you dare but the webtoon doesn't follow from the Webnovel.
     
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