Spoiler Under the oak tree

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  1. MARSEA12

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    It isn't a bathhouse for a woman like Maxi and as
    naive Maxi doesn't get what Elliot is really trying to say. Well Ruth comes and tells her is a brother. Maxi is awe that these both men know what they are even they don't have vices. Maxi must think Ruth wants something with these woman and says something to him but Ruth would not even pay a dime for to do it. Elliot is not into those brothels. Maxi wouldn't forgive her husband were to do something with those women's. Maxi is curious if these brothels are common in campaign and Elliot tells her they aren't rarer and is seen commonly. Maxi and Riftan are quarreling as Riftan wants Maxi to sleep by herself in a room and he in the tent as he doesn't want to make the same mistake again. Maxi gives him the option both can sleep in the tent but opposite directions. Riftan wants her to stop being stubborn and to listen to him. Maxi doesn't want to show jealousy but then tell what she really feels. What if one of those women jumps into Riftan tent and in a deep sleep he might think is Maxi.

    Maxi is too innocent until someone tells her what are those bathhouse. She has some trust issues but Maxi Riftan isn't the type to go with those women as he has only eyes for you even if those women try to seduce your man he will kick them out. Maxi you say you trust him but then your jealous gets ahead of you. Maxi has a point why she wants to sleep in the same tent even in opposite directions and Maxi is your wife she has the right to sleep in the same place with her hubby. As for Riftan he doesn't want to make the same mistake of that night as he is scared to make her pregnant and he is being very careful as they are in war. Both Maxi and Riftan are alike and have jealousy towards each other.
     
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    Happy Friday almost afternoon from Indonesia, UTOT angels. Welcome back @zel__ and @PattyCakes, how are you? ...still miss the other old members. Hopefully, they were healthy and joyfully. Although, Riftan still creates "a wall" between Maxi and him, he isn't a playboy or a womanizer. He will only think bout' Maxi. Hi, by the way, I also love the bath house episode ;) Aa, Elliot, I start liking you, too.
     
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    Riftan blushed what Maxi said and that it would never happen. Maxi wants to know how sure he knows it won't happen. Riftan explains her that he hardly sleeps. Maxi knows he is right as he has seen him sleeping for four hours but has seen his guard get down late at night. She is happy that he can relax around her but is afraid others can take advantage of him. Nobody can't make mistakes at purpose and but then Riftan explains to he he won't make another mistake as he can now her footsteps from afar and she should stop worrying and go inside. Maxi changes tactics and seduces Riftan with words that she doesn't want to be apart from him. Riftan doesn't wish to be with her? Riftan gives up and clenches his teeth that she can have it her way. Maxi is smiling and linked her arms with him and wants to hurry to his tent. For weeks there has been snow and she had a fairy egg to know of the mana concentration and the fairy egg was glowing blue. A fairy egg glows in blue it means it has firs mana in the region and it could mean the revival of the dragon is almost. Maxi goes to where Ruth and is sleeping by the brazier as a cocoon and shows him the color 9f the fairy egg. This confirms Ruth suspicions, the church barriers won't function propely as they purify the five shrines. Maxi scans the barracks and see Hebaron and the knights in a game of dice. Hebaron gets a pocket of money as if he wins he will buy Talon from the commander. Maxi in regal voice that he needs to stop tormenting this man and needs an escort to the nearest city. She can't wait anymore for the supplies and they refuse to send the supplies, then they have to bring the supplies themselves. Maxi and Hebaron conversing about the city and the length to and wanted to get Riftan orders to depart but then she hears a Koppel. The supplies has arrived but then once she see the supplies it wasn't full of it; it was just five wagons. Riftan wasn't enraged but really calm. If they were attacked and the wagoner say yes. Maxi at first didn't believe until she saw them and were shaken as they escaped death. They were attacked by bandits and slaughtered the soldiers a stole the supplies. The reason this wagoners made it alive because they were ahead of the party. Riftan scrutinized each man. Tha wagoner are saying the truth and wants them to believe them as they set out in this city and met the party suppliers who came from this city and the bandits took everything except the five wagons. Riftan jumped into the wagon and search everywhere and saw an arrow embedded in a crate. Riftan touch the tip of the arrowhead and it was a military issue. The wagoner face is in terror but want truly to believe them, they were attacked. One man believes he is lying. A knight had drawn his sword and held the blade by the wagoner neck but Riftan raised a hand to stop it. It was enough and beheading someone won't do any good and Riftan jumped off the wagon with disdain and whether this a scheme by the duke vassals but then he loos at Richt and his men gathered somewhere atop. If these were the works as solders disguise as bandits, it still remains that they won't have supplies. How Riftan is going to proceed? They are going to proceed as they planned, once they crossed to Dristan, they will secure the supplies for the army for themselves.

    Maxi really needs to know Riftan won't mistake another woman as Maxi is he has Maxi radar on all the time and even a woman came in he wouldn't even take advantage as he has sharp senses and knows it isn't Maxi he will throw her out. Maxi she really was seducing Riftan and he succumbed to it and Riftan let her have her way but deep inside him, he really doesn't want to be apart of her even he sounded disappointed. Sektor is almost resurrecting and war is almost at the horizon. Hebaron really thinks he can but Talon from Riftan, first he has t9 get through his word if he ever plans to get Talon from him. The supply party arrived it was enough and Richt might behind it as he was upset that how she convinced them to get the supplies. Richt can't stand being order by Riftan and wants to surpass him in leadership. Riftan wasn't angry he must already suspect Richt was behind many supplies not arriving and the wagoners being ambushed as he was staring him. I really feel for Maxi she fought thick with teeth and nail with those nobles for have those supplies to come only see few coming, she must felt upset and disappointed.
     
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    I am good busy with work sorry for the delayed reply thank you for asking how are you?
     
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    You know was re reading the novel again without romance perspective and only as war in mind. And I find myself dying with curiosity as how the riftan fight with undead dragon. It will be awesome if instead of happily ever after we can get that battle part in side stories as riftan pov.
     
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    I'm good too ;) Thanks.
     
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    I also would love to see that perspective. Three years is a long time. It would be amazing if we could read and visualize that battle with Sektor. How Riftan thought as a monster -as Kuahel put it. Their duel , and other aspects of that arduous campaign.

    It might just be me , but I want to read details about Riftan’s prowess in battle leading the frontlines. We all know he’s one (if not best) of the strongest knights in the continent. BUT we rarely get to see his skill on the field, beside a glimpse once in a while (besides his POV- mostly his mercenary days.)


    not only once but twice , did he have to fight Sektor. The infiltration of the monster city & what their previous investigation entailed with disguising themselves as werewolves. The eth lene battle.
    I know some of these details might seem unnecessary for some, but wouldn’t it be fascinating to get more into Riftan’s head ?
    Although, I think it might be the whole point of his character to be this emotionally reserved man , a man of few words if you will. It’ll be great to be able to have more of those glimpses of him in the battlefield.
    what are y’all’s thoughts?
     
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    I would love to see Riftan POV of him battling the dragon, I believe while doing the final blow he thought of Maxi. Throughout the two books I want to know his POV in the frontlines, all what he still does at war but he still will have thoughts of Maxi and if we had another Riftan POV, there's going to be alot thoughts about her.
     
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    Yeah and I also want a better map of their strategy of war at ethelene , monster city and last war. I always have hard time imagining things in my head who is exactly stationed where in war. What is they are doing at same time.
     
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    Good morning Angels, hope you all are fine! ;)
    It has snowed in the north of Germany in the last few days, a wonderfully white landscape, I love that!
    I also thought about the snow scene where Riftan and Maxi went for a ride to the lake (Book 1) and he looked at them like a dream:love::)


    Yes, that's exactly what I think. Of course, it would be very interesting to see how he felt when he fought with Sector. However, I think that the reason KSj didn't go into it was because she didn't think it was necessary, since he's more reserved than talking things out anyway.;)(y)


    I agree with you @marsea that all his thoughts during the sector fight were about Maxi because he wanted to get back to her quickly.
    Even in the coming second fight he will be extremely focused, but his thoughts will still revolve mainly around Maxi.

    Personally, I don't need the thoughts he has during all the fights because he doesn't see the fighting itself as important, in my opinion. His thoughts and his life revolve around Maxi, everything else is secondary to him.
    And we have more than enough fights in both books, specially in Book 2.

    I would be more interested if KSj wrote a side story about how the two of them's lives turn out after the war.;):love:

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    KSJ said in her Q&A she doesn't have plans to write Riftan POV when he defeated Sektor. I agree the fighting POV isn't necessarily important but I will still like it because it sounds interesting. Riftan first POV it was all about Maxi and even if there's another POV of Riftan Maxi still will be revolved around Riftan. I rather have side stories of them after the war and their peaceful life in Anatol before they have children. The children can come later on.
     
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    I agree with you totally (y)(y)
     
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    Happy Sunday afternoon from Indonesia, all angels ;) Feliz domingo de Indonesia todos angeles. Both @MARSEA12 and @Selina-may, I'm also curious bout' Riftan's POV during his last battle with Red Dragon (n)? I wonder if he experienced a second near-death experience then his memories of Maxi encouraged him to keep fighting for the last time :eek: However, sadly I'm not the author. You need to know that I sometimes imagine how if Riftan were unconscious after the last battle then the only one who were able to revive him were Maxi. I understand that it might sound similar to the plot of a PS game. To be honest, I'm inspired by it, too. Thrice more, I don't care whether at the end they are childless, childfree or childfull. For, I often believe that both parenting and motherhood aren't for everyone. Both Riff and Maxi have suffered from trauma. I'm worried if their trauma might affect their future generation. And, remember, at the time there is no psychiatrist.
     
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    I just read the part where maxi was at the banquet with Sejuleu to make Riftan jealous.

    one thing I seriously hate about this story, to be exact the relationship between maxi and riftan is, that they just don’t talk. I hoped that maxi and riftan would talk a little after that scene but no it ended with them passionately kissing again. Whenever I hope that there will be a serious conversation now, it just ends up with both of them kissing or making love with each other. Sorry but can the other not do something different here and there, it’s always the same and really annoying idk I can’t really be happy for these two since it doesn’t not feel like these two are a married couple. It’s like they forgot everything that happened in book 1
     
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    I understand that this upsets you. But you mustn't forget that they are two people who "tick" differently than you. Riftan expresses his emotions through physical closeness and Maxi wants to get her husband back. Riftan is opening up with difficulty and only gradually; Maxi also has to learn and accept that. However, you will find the right path, be patient.
     
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    I understand your point and why both of them are this way. I think I can’t just really understand what they are trying to do. I realized that I don’t really understand so many of the things riftan is doing. I personally love talking openly and directly to people and I get that not everybody does it that way. But I also realized that this fact made me dislike riftan most of the time. I mean I love how much he cares about maxi but sometimes I just don’t feel it
     
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    Yes, because he can't openly express himself like - you do, for example. Remember, in the first book Maxi was also closed off. However, they are gradually learning to talk to each other, although I think it will take a while before it works permanently.
    But it comes step by step, you will see.
    The other angels here, like myself, first had to understand how Riftan's inner self works. This was the only way we could understand him better and why he often acts like that and Riftan's POV helped us a lot. (y)
     
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    On Riftan’s pov story , a line his former mercenary captain-Gale said caught my attention.
    *When Riftan quit the mercenary group Bc his goals didn’t align with the organization.*

    Gale got tired of pleading Riftan to reconsider staying when he said:

    “Fine! I won’t try to stop you any longer. Go wherever it is you want to go, brat. I doubt you’ll last much longer with the way you live, but I’ll pray your head remains intact until you’ve crossed the border. You’d be hell to deal with as a ghoul.”

    That last sentence intrigued me so much. God forbid anything happens to Rif, but imagine the sheer power he will still have even as an undead. & That’s saying something , since ghouls are hard to kill as it is. Just someone of Riftan’s caliber as a ghoul should scare everyone in that world.

    This particular topic hasn’t crossed my mind until further into volume 2. Where the allied alliance was fighting the undead, and most of them were dead soldiers still in armor, slaughtering ppl in the villages. Gale’s words came to mind & I thought the 7 kingdoms would instantly fall if Riftan became an undead. They wouldn’t even stand a chance. It’s a disturbing thought all around.
     
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    That's an interesting theory. I think he would cause a lot of trouble for the 7 Kingdoms, maybe even of a caliber like the sector, who knows. But we'd rather keep him as a descendant of Rossem Wigrew and Maxi's beloved husband and ML, in my opinion.:ROFLMAO:::bloblove::
     
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    This is a “ I guess we’ll never know” scenario. It’s a disturbing but interesting theory. But that’s it :blobsweat:. We want Maxi and Riftan to last us a long time. I can’t fathom the thought of them being gone. As much as they are fictional characters, they’re alive in my head. And they will stay that way :p