Spoiler This Marriage Is Bound To Fail, Anyway / 이 결혼은 어차피 망하게 되어있다 / This marriage is bound to sink

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  1. NohrNeir

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    I saw news that there's going to be ebook versions on Amazon and GPlay. Unfortunately, they're going to be using the Tappytoon translation. In fact, Amazon has already released a pre-order of volume 1 and I checked the sample. They did not take the fixed translation from a mistake I have shared before here:
    Tappytoon has fixed this mistake on their app, but the sample on Amazon did not show the edjustment.

    This is the adjustment from Tappytoon:
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    This is the sample from Amazon:
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    This shows that Amazon's copy is taken from before the edits on the Tappytoon app. You can see it was the same before the edit. In other words, the ebooks are translated even more wrong than the Tappytoon version since they don't make edits.
     
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    Some of these characters I don't remember at all :LOL:
    Will you be adding the other people when they show up like Matteo and the emperor and Dolores? :hmm:
     
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    This is amazing :aww:

    But now I got reminded of Viviana :blobimfine:
     
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    Sometimes fate is so sad. Every lifetime she always die.
     
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    Anyone got to read the novel free on ridi? Happy holidays everyone ;)
     
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    I was wishing for a xmas illustration for BR but we didn't get any :blob_teary:
     
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    Happy Holidays

    Artist-nim posted the Christmas illustration later on.
    https://twitter.com/Che0nGwa/status/1739299404136485363
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    Maybe cuz storyteller also help draw some in original and in fanarts she drew them herself
     
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    Was Dolores in love with Ines' first cousin in the previous lifetimes? Like how is her overall character?
     
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    I would say crush and not love and it was only in the 2nd lifetime. Ines memories rarely showed the 3rd lifetime because she was living away from people.

    Dolores is annoying but not important. She has little interaction with Ines. The only reason she only interacted with Ines often in 2nd lifetime was because Ines married Oscar and Oscar is Dolores' half brother whom she was proud of. She was like Cayetana who thought her brother is too good for Ines. In this lifetime, she just hates Ines because Ines has a proud and arrogant nature to her so she doesn't like how Ines "looks down" on her. Ines just used Dolores to mess with Cayetana in this lifetime because Cayetana was trying to force a marriage on Miguel to marry Dolores.

    And in this lifetime, Dolores has no crush on Ines' cousin. Since Ines' cousin married her other cousin in another lifetime, I would assume it will happen in this lifetime as well because most marriages are fated in this world and only the ones unfated are due to people with memories. I don't see how Oscar with memories would bother with other people's marriages so I'm sure her cousin will marry her other cousin again. As for Dolores, because she has little to no interaction with Ines in this lifetime, she probably has little to no interaction with Ines' cousin as well. Ines was close to her cousins in 2nd lifetime, but in this lifetime, she wasn't. Maybe she'll get close to them again one day but for now, she only worried about her relationship with her brother.

    Dolores has another guy she has a crush on in this lifetime. During the banquet where Ines and Carcel had the loving moment, Oscar sent Dolores off to see her crush to appease her when Ines left with Carcel. Dolores doesn't seem to have men she loves since at the end, she threatened Cayetana she'll become a nun and doesn't want to marry. She didn't want to marry Miguel unless Carcel was to die so she can become duchess. She's only important for this because of Cayetana trying to force this marriage, Carcel had to go to war to show his family's loyalty to the throne. Cayetana wanted to prop this marriage up to show her families' loyalty to the throne through a marriage between her nephew and emperor's illegitimate daughter. Miguel hates Dolores cause she used to bully Vivi and Carcel wanted his brother to be able to marry someone he can love like his own marriage with Ines, so he volunteered to go off to war to show the Escalante's loyalty. Juan, Carcel's father, disagreed with it because he didn't want his son to go to war but Carcel was adament. His choice in going to war was for Miguel but also mostly for Ines so that they can be together.

    She's spoiled. Because she's like Cayetana, Cayetana spoiled her. The thing is, she's the emperor's illegitimate daughter, so Cayetana may spoil her but couldn't bring it in herself to even give Dolores a status so Dolores is still considered an orphan in official terms. She has a last name that's given to most orphans and not considered as someone of the imperial family. Dolores didn't know this because she thought she was loved since the empress spoiled her. Ines had Regina tell Dolores this to break the close relationship between Cayetana and Dolores.

    In the 2nd lifetime, Ines knew this but didn't say anything. She just used it as a fact to internally laugh at Dolores' pompous nature who likes to show off her brother and being the emperor's bloodline. In this lifetime, she wanted Dolores to rebel from marrying Miguel so to separate Dolores from loving the empress as a mother figure, she had Regina tell Dolores that the empress didn't even officially adopt her as she was unwilling to let Dolores have the last name of the imperial family. When Dolores found out about this, she was enraged since she initially didn't even want to marry Miguel and thought the empress was letting her have a good marriage by marrying Miguel.

    Anyway the marriage set up by the imperial family is usually law and political. Hence this is just to show Ines using the empress before to force Carcel to marry her was just part of Ines manipulation as she knows this fact. Dolores knows she would be used to marry for political purpose one day because she's under the empress' thumb but Dolores thought the empress loves her and would give her a good marriage. While the empress did grow to love the child who was like herself, she cared more about herself. Just like when she set up the marriage between Carcel and Ines, that was for herself and Ines who knew the empress well, used the empress to set up her own marriage. One that cannot be disobeyed easily. Carcel had to go to war to cancel the engagement between Miguel and Dolores but who had to sacrifice for him to break the marriage between Ines and him? No one else was able to.
     
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    WOW I did not expect the empress to like her. I always assumed it was for public show that she adopted her.
     
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    She didn't like her in the beginning but because Dolores looks like her, she grew to like her. She was cute as a child and because she looked like Cayetana, she was like her own daughter. Everyone else in court also let Dolores be because they know the empress spoiled her. The emperor doesn't care about any of his children so Cayetana did originally keep her to make herself look good but just grew to like her after taking care of her. Dolores was the only child that she left to live. All other illegitimate children were killed because Cayetana did not want any contender for the throne from her own son. Because Dolores was a girl, she was let go from being killed. Matteo on the other hand was rescued in secret.

    In the side story, Cayetana wanted to see Ivana because Ivana reminded her of when Dolores was young, a cute, angelic looking child. Of course Carcel didn't like Cayetana comparing Ivana with Dolores since he hates Dolores and loves his own daughter. Ines said it's fine to compare since Dolores did look like an angelic child when she was young.
     
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    Lol looks like the emperor IS FULLY an a****le. I can't find one good point about him. Even Oscar was moderately a good brother I heard. But this emperor, . Has he done anyone any good?
     
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    He's not a good person and does everything for his own benefits. He's also a huge coward, but he'll one day probably be known as a good emperor just for making use of Ines to promote more women in the workforce.

    He wasn't even born to be the heir originally because he wasn't the oldest. His oldest brother died from some infection after an injury during hunting so the emperor is scared of hunting. Oscar got his own cowardice from his father. He also has paranoia because the emperor wasn't a good father. If anyone wanted to feel bad for Oscar, they could blame the emperor for being a shitty father, but the empress spoiled her son so... can't excuse Oscar much.

    Oscar did love his half sister though and did care for her. The emperor doesn't like any of his children since he finds them useless. He's scared of his own son too, believing Oscar might try to hurt him one day to get the throne so he doesn't give Oscar much power to prevent that from happening. On the other hand, because Dolores is not a son, she's useless to him since he only care about having heirs knowing he will die one day and will need one. It's just that he wants an heir who will listen to him. When Matteo became crown prince, he didn't like Matteo either because everyone compared him with Matteo saying Matteo will be a good emperor because he's not like him. In the side story, the emperor kept sleeping around trying to get another heir to replace Matteo because Matteo is under Cayetana. Ines spread the emperor's affairs to the public so that will keep the emperor from trying to get another heir. She knows the emperor is a coward and cares a lot about how the public views him so she used the public to keep him from sleeping around for another son. This is so Matteo can remain crown prince and later safely become emperor.

    This is all just political.
     
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    I wonder if Dolores ever liked Carcel romantically. I mean there was that one chapter where younger Oscar out of irritation asked Carcel if his sister wasn't enough and Carcel expressed deep disgust to such incest related matter in his mind.
     
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    I don't think Dolores ever liked Carcel. She's younger than all of them. She's closer to Miguel and Vivi's age. Oscar was just saying it because there's not much high status daughters. Besides Ines, it would be Dolores if no one knows she's not really part of the imperial family. If people knew she isn't part of the imperial family, her status is even lower than other low ranking nobles' daughters. It would be fine for her to marry Miguel since he's not heir and won't get a title unless Carcel dies but she doesn't have the status to marry Carcel. Oscar most likely said it in assumption that Dolores has the status to marry Carcel.
     
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    the way empress is really a bad b*tch lmao i wish she was the main antagonist cuz look at the potential!! she always somehow finds a way to stay powerful i can fix her :blob_blush:
    oh it makes sense !!
     
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    She's so useful tho so they can't make her a villain and she only hates whoever marries her son :ROFLMAO: She's like those horrible MILs but if not a MIL, she's fine. Didn't she kill the emperor later on LOL? :LOL:
     
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    Dolores kinda also insulted Carcel and Ines together at that party. She was kinda implying Ines prob change cuz she got a taste of the playboy's dk :cautious: Dolores kinda vulgar

    The storyteller's twt also say she an artist but I think she just focus on storytelling more but help draw on side