Spoiler This Marriage Is Bound To Fail, Anyway / 이 결혼은 어차피 망하게 되어있다 / This marriage is bound to sink

I'm not trying to bring hate on Carcel or anything!!! I was really confused because a reader friend of mine had told me that he never slept with those women and was only a drug addict to believe he did that, but here in the questions they say that he was selective with whom he slept so the doubt

 

She must be talking about their 2nd lifetime. Carcel was drugged by Oscar to sleep around in order to protect Ines from Oscar hurting her more. Because of this, Ines thought he was a playboy from that lifetime when she married Oscar. Because she thought he was a playboy from her 2nd lifetime, she decided to choose him in this lifetime.

He did sleep around in 2nd and the current 4th lifetime. He's always been selective with who he sleeps with though. Even when he slept around in past lifetime, he did not get STDs like Oscar. In this lifetime, it shows how more selective he was in choosing who to sleep with. They have to be noble so that they won't try to cling to him for his status. They can't be virgins so that they won't try to use that as an excuse for him to take responsibility. They have to be into light relationships because he only have one-night stands. He didn't accept anyone that's close to him to avoid close connections. He also didn't accept married women because he himself has always believe in a sanctioned marriage under God. Carcel knew he would have to marry Ines eventually so he only slept with women that he thought would be able to leave him alone after the one-night stands and won't cause trouble later when he marries Ines. That's why you don't see any "other women" showing up because he made sure that wouldn't exist in the first place. When Ines try to bring women to make him cheat, he'll tell Raul to spread rumors about how crazy he is for his wife to stop women from trying to get with him. In other words, he likes clean, clear-cut relationships and made sure of that. So yes, he did sleep around but he did make sure it wouldn't cause any trouble for Ines.

 

It's just the way you ask the question. If I was to answer your 1st question, I would say he did sleep around but he didn't cheat because Ines knew and wanted it. But if you're asking if he was drugged and thought he slept around, that's a totally different question. Got to see how you phrase things. Your 1st question also make me think you trying to pin him as a cheater to start something in this thread.

Imo it's not cheating when she let him sleep around. Other ppl will think it still cheating just because they engage but then if they think engagement is so important, then Ines also cheated before when she was engaged to Oscar. Make up your mind on what makes a serious relationship. If it's feelings, then Ines and Carcel didn't have any before they marry. If it's engagement, then they both committed this "cheating" so it even.

 

Obrigada pela explicação!!!

Comical or what a hypocrite they are. They used to badmouth Ines for dressing like a nun and now they're calling her a fashion icon and copying her.

 

You do know Ines dressed that way for those kind of badmouthing to be spread. She wanted Carcel to not be interested in her so she wore black and put her hair in tight braids and buns like a nun.

 

Yes, I'm slowly reading each page here to understand the story better, as I've been told the manhwa is cutting out many scenes or getting lost in translation. I just think it's very hypocritical how she was judged by everyone for her clothing style and that now she's being acclaimed by the population of this universe for it. It's terrifying that this countess has dressed up in every detail like her.

 

This countess? This lady who dressed like her not even that countess. This lady not even someone Carcel knows. He don't even know this lady.

And like Ines don't dress like a nun anymore so they're free to copy her now because she's dress different now.

Ines was popular with her fashion in 2nd life too. She knows how to get ppl's awe in her fashion. She just chose when to manipulate ppl to follow her or when to mock her.

It's too much to say they're hypocrites when Ines manipulated them when to mock her and when to follow her fashion.

 

The manhwa does cut a lot. I wouldn't say it's lost in translation. They just cut out so much, there's nothing to translate when the lines were removed. The lady she invited to her home isn't a countess. There's no mention of her status or rank. She married a nearby navy man so she's definitely not a countess. Most heirs don't join the navy. Carcel is one of the few who love the navy more than his aristocratic title and rarely use his aristocratic status to get away with battling or work. That's why many of the other navy men who are jealous of him like to mock him about it.

The only sons of nobles who may join the navy are usually the 2nd or later sons as they wouldn't have to take over the household and they want to get reputation from the navy. Marquess Barca was a 2nd son who was already in the navy before he became a marquess when his older brother died leaving his niece, Alicia. Jose is the 3rd son of a count so he most likely won't become a count. Even Verbeek in the navy isn't a first son so he's not heir. If someone was to marry a navy man, chances they become countess are rare. The countess in the beginning was someone who married a count so she became countess that way. Her husband died so she's a widowed Countess.

Another thing is that even if Ines is a fashion icon currently, in the manhwa, she's only one in Calztela. That countess in the beginning resides in Mendoza, the capital. Mendoza still has different fashion currently from Calztela. What the manhwa also fails to show is that after Ines married Carcel in the novel, she rarely wears black now. Only in the manhwa, the artist proceeds to continue to still often put her in black clothing when in the novel, she's been wearing more lighter color dresses due to the warmer weather in Calztela. It's no surprise for the ladies to follow her fashion sense now when she's dressing differently from before. When she went back to visit Mendoza, even her mother-in-law was saying how Alondra mentioned she dresses in bright color dresses now so Isabella decorated her sleeping quarters in bright colors to match her new style.

Volume 4

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The manhwa just want to portray Ines a certain way so many things are cut out and Ines is also drawn a certain way. Certain examples are how the manhwa cut out many of the times she did smile and laugh around Carcel. Other examples are how Ines contribute some of her changes to Carcel.

 

I didn't know she wasn't a countess, I think I confused the two women mentioned in the post, I'm sorry. I didn't really understand how Carcel came up in this conversation, I think there was a loss of translation from English to Portuguese here, but I already understood and understand his attitudes because you explained it well and since I only read the manhwa then there was more information that I didn't know. On the question of hypocrisy and manipulation, it's still comical to me how easy it was for these people to be manipulated by Ines and easily turn their opinions public again through manipulation. It's like that famous herd effect, you know?

It's like that scene at the wedding where the men fell over themselves to see how beautiful Ines was, but before that they mocked Carcel for marrying someone who couldn't compare to him

 

I just think if she change her fashion then yeah, ppl might like her fashion more now so they want to dress like her. It's like in Mean Girls, Cady used to dress different and the popular ppl make fun of her but when she join their group and change her fashion, she became the it girl.

Yeah because she dressed, looked and acted different. Only Carcel can see she's the same as before. Other ppl who don't know her well easily thought she just changed. Carcel knew she was just acting nice and not rly being nice.

 

I wish manhwa had brought more of Ines' fashion style after the wedding. I honestly think she suits spontaneous outfits that bring a sense of refreshment
Even if the outfits don't have that feeling, there are some that you look at and think "that must be very comfortable to wear".

 

She wears lighter more comfortable dresses in Calztela because it's warmer. She continues this fashion even when she goes to Mendoza so the ladies talk about it.

There'sa lot about Ines' fashion alrdy in toc

 

I think this must have been a very different concept for the people of Mendonza, as the women must have been used to those heavy looks we've come to know from all the period manhwas. It's good that Ines liked these dresses because they really seemed to suit her, but of course she also looks beautiful in other ways (even as a nun). Outside of this subject, in a Brazilian thread in the manhwas universe about dresses that the protagonists would wear, most of them recommended these types of more comfortable and warmer dresses for Ines
Lol my god reading now about the types of colors she's still going to wear I'm looking forward to yellow!!! Everything really seems to suit her

 

We think her favorite color is purple tho

I think her mother knows that too because when Luciano asked what color flowers to get Ines, her mother suggested purple and he came with purple corolla and saw she coincidentally wearing a purple dress so it seems she knows.

She also wore purple in a some other occasion

 

Here is another part that shows cutting out lines and scenes will get back at the storyteller in the manhwa.

https://twitter.com/ohnyoooooo/status/1746041399223418914

If the storyteller is going to cut things out, they shouldn't even continue to use lines that will link to the cut out scenes and lines. It makes no sense for Ines to even say he returned to clean her up when it wasn't shown in the manhwa because she went straight to dreaming...

 

Don't seem like anyone else notice this

This why the storyteller can get away with things cuz ppl read without their head

 

Hello folks,

Is it just me or is the latest chapter of the novel out from Tappytoon quite a dud again.

Context: its the only legal version of the novel I can access (for some reason I can't even access the ridi website from my location and I'm not about to pay for a VPN)(also haven't read the novel in full yet, kind of relying on this thread)

It feels like they added lines in again -there was just some stuff that felt like they were forced in at the beginning of the chapter.

It has become gut feeling at this point
At this point, everytime they add or change something in the translation it just feels really off - it usually feels like it doesn't match the tone of the chapter or isn't relevant at all

Is it just me?

 

I'll get back to you after I read it. I haven't read the latest episode yet on Tappytoon but so far for 158, I've sent an email for how they worded "married Carcel Escalante" since it's similar to their "unwanted child" mistake.

...Oh, I can see why you think the beginning was weird.

If they word it as

right after she was thinking about Carcel in a previous part, it would seem random. Actually the raws said, "She started to dream again", so that would've flowed better to a new part.

Here is how it went from previous part to the next part, the dream in the actual raws:

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What country are you from if you don't mind me asking?

 

Where are you from? Recently I heard some readers said they couldn’t access Ridi in their country.

 

Actually the further I read, the more I can see the bias again. Ines in the raws was actually more sarcastic and mocking at her thoughts about Emiliano than in the translation.

Tappytoon:

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Raws and direct translation:

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She actually thinks the thought of being blissful temporarily from a dream was stupid.