Spoiler This Marriage Is Bound To Fail, Anyway / 이 결혼은 어차피 망하게 되어있다 / This marriage is bound to sink

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Makes me wonder what they will say when manhwa is ‘forced” to reveal Ines from the first timeline saying those hurtful things to Carcel.

Even without that, their idea of ‘goodness’ is questionable. Manhwa showed Ines plotting against Carcel for over 40 chapters and they still think she’s flawless or they think she’s justified. They see Raul threaten to throw Alfonso over the balcony to his death, and they applauded it. These people obviously only know wrong from right when it’s cheating. Otherwise than that, they have no sense of morality even though they think they do. At least there are some readers who did realize Ines was gaslighting Carcel in the crazy lady arc.

But it’s funny how easily they fall back on misogyny like that person who said the meaning behind Carcel’s name and how it relates to Ines is misogynistic. People nowadays are so woke, so victimized, and such snowflakes that the future seems bleak.

 

From one of my readers who was reading publicly before, they thought Ines hated Carcel until I reminded them of Ines' memory from when the 1st lifetime was revealed. The reveal showed Ines at her dying state in bed with Alondra and the priest (apostle). She was thinking of her most cherished moment with Carcel right before she died and someone who hated another wouldn't have done that in their death. Some readers tend to forget and misunderstand.

 

Idk who keeps changing the tags on NU but it's annoying. Someone else is also tling BR on NU. Is that even allowed? There's official tl alrdy too.

 

I never forget anything that makes a deep impression on me in BR. Later, in the epilogue, Carcel himself confirms that Ines died yearning to see him. When he gets the full memory of the first timeline, he knew it. He even wakes up from the memory shedding tears and Ines asks him if he had a bad dream as he clings to her. He knew she died waiting for him to return and he never did since he died in a watery grave.

When I think of the first life, it’s truly heartbreaking. All the suffering they went through. All the physical pain that Ines suffered and even at times she wanted to die because the pain was too much. All the times she laid unconscious for days. When she isolated herself at the castle, she admits sometimes she would lay in her own filth. (Author really wrote her situation realistically). How she would cry because of the wracking pain and wish for relief in death. Fortunately Carcel found out her secret and brought her to Calztela. Even on the trip she was unconscious for something like a month. In Calztela, Carcel nursed her himself when she was unconscious. He made sure she was always clean every single day. He brushed her teeth for her and kept her groomed so she wouldn’t feel humiliated like she felt at times when she had hidden herself away. Of course Ines being the dignified aristocratic woman she is, she was embarrassed to find out and even witness Carcel cleaning her. She didn’t want him to see the way her body was wasted by the illness. Even her voluptuous breasts were gone. Carcel knew she felt that way but would clean her and tell her how beautiful she is to him. I don’t know what Carcel hadn’t done for her during that time. Little by little, Ines began to recover enough to get out of bed, walk down the stairs and even go to the garden. I have extra love for the part when he was injured from war and bedridden so both of them were invalids in bed sharing their time and rest together.

One thing that is always consistent about Carcel is the way he takes very good care of Ines. I love the way he took a demotion in the navy so he didn’t have to participate in war and instead stay in Calztela to take care of his sick wife. It’s only when Ortega was losing the war that he was ‘forced’ to join the war to rescue Ortega residual navy and the men he trained. Nevertheless, he was always thinking of his wife, her health and her safety in a war climate.

 

Well said! Can you please help me with this part? I do not remember who Anastasio is and do not remember too much about the event you mentioned above. I really appreciate it.

 

Anastasio is someone who acts on behalf of god. IIRC, he’s called the Angel of Resurrection and he’s the one whom people who die unfated death speaks to after they die. In the event I mentioned, the painter received a vision of Ines killing their child and then stabbing herself in the neck aka committing suicide. Since this is not a memory of his, since he was already dead when Ines committed murder-suicide, the vision most likely came from Anastasio. He most likely gave the vision to the painter to prevent him from meddling further in Ines’s fate. The reader learned about this scene when Carcel visited him in Bilboa.

 

He's very important in the second half of the story when Ines met him again upon her return to Mendoza. For now, no one really sees the heavy implication of religion in the story. We get sprinkles of light Catholicism and Bible verses in the first half of the story, but after the reveal of Anastasio, there will be heavier implication of the religious background in the story. Anastasio is an apostle of god who acts on behalf of god as @Celebrianna said. He makes sure the people are following their fate and the world is running as it should. He guides humans who try to stray and meets them at their death. Everyone who dies encounter him.

We believe he gave the painter the vision of Ines killing Luca because Anastasio was always the one working in the background to keep people from straying. The painter met with Anastasio in the 3rd lifetime after his death and found out he wasn't supposed to die that way or at that time. Because of this, the painter realized he was meant to have a different life and so was Ines so that was why the painter wished for memories to avoid meeting Ines again, but his weak will made him want to meet her again in 4th lifetime. The vision came to him when he tried to meet her again. He made a replica of that necklace for the purpose of trying to meet her again. After given the vision of Ines killing Luca, he no longer wanted to see her again. The vision put a stop to his action and allowed fate to continue as it should for the characters.

Ines actually saw Anastasio in every lifetime but didn't really notice his being until this lifetime. When she saw him again in this lifetime, she remembered seeing him before in other lifetimes, and even in the current when she was a child and tried to kill herself. He saved her so that she doesn't end up in suicide again as this is her last chance.

In Ines and Carcel's first lifetime, Anastasio met both of them as well. He was the priest who prayed for both their deaths and met them again after they die to get their wishes. He tried to get Carcel to make a wish that can fix Ines' wish since she made a wish that would've broken her fate, hence the title the broken ring for their broken fated marriage. Carcel's final wish to be given a chance to be chosen again was what saved Ines in the long run.

Even Oscar get to meet Anastasio but Oscar thought he was special from being able to obtain memories after wishing for it in their 1st lifetime. Anastasio had given some words of foreboding about Oscar before to Ines in current lifetime.

For other things about Anastasio, he was the one who also warned Ines in 3rd lifetime when she was marrying the painter. She didn't heed his warning at that time. In 2nd lifetime, he was a protestant priest who was granted a quick death by Ines. He was sent to be executed by the imperial family. The nation was Catholic and against protestants at that time, so the protestants that were caught were to be executed. Ines was crown princess at that time married to Oscar. Oscar was happy to show off to Ines his authority against the Protestants. Ines was drunk at that time and offered 10 gold, one for each Protestant to be killed quickly so it can be painless. The apostle who told Ines this later on since she forgot about it, said he was thankful for the painless death since he's someone punished to relive forever so he had always experienced many kinds of death and a painless death in a lifetime was something he was grateful for.

I don't remember if Anastasio was the first to ever commit suicide thus given that punishment by god but he is also someone who follows god but doesn't know god's plans. Anastasio was human before so he does have his own feelings aside from what god does. Such as he knows punishments and laws that cannot be changed but he can help with some things. Ines was someone he had kept wanting to help but she kept screwing herself over as she made a bad wish in the 1st life and also ended up committing suicide in the following lifetimes, all ruining her own fate.

 

You read the whole novel yet? He shows up in the middle of story. Volume 4 right before Carcel meets the painter.

 

I want to know what happen after Chapter 91 Novel Spoilers i want to know please Help i can't Sleep i wants Spoilers please Help

I want to know what happen after Chapter 91 Novel Spoilers i want to know please Help i can't Sleep i wants Spoilers please Help

I want to know what happen after Chapter 91 Novel Spoilers i want to know where i can read it further chapters please help

 

Can you not spam my profile and I summarized the whole novel on the 1st page. The ToC of this spoiler thread is also on the 1st page and I even made guidelines of each volume with their serial chapters and arcs, all in the ToC on the 1st page.

Also if you've been following along the novel with the manhwa. The manhwa is way ahead of what you're even reading up to from the novel...

I don't even know where you're reading the novel from because the official translation is also ahead of the manhwa.

 

This right here will get so many manhwa readers get so mad and call you a “misogynist” LMAO. I’m so tired of seeing so many people say NOBODY helped Ines or try to help her in any way. Ines does get help one way or another but HER choices (and her bad wish) ruins it and just makes herself suffer even more. Certain people should stop villainizing the people that help Ines and instead focus on Ines and open their eyes as to why she’s suffering so much.

I also noticed that many people call Anastasio, “God”, which in a way is actually pretty cool especially for the people that wanted spoilers but doesn’t want to get spoiled too much if that makes sense.

 

I have seen the accusation too that no one helps her. That is so false. Ines basically cut off her family in the second timeline. They had no idea she was living such a horrible life. She didn’t want them to know of her suffering. It’s Oscar who exposed what was truly going on by inviting Luciano to the palace. Luciano was intent on killing Oscar after that but among other things, Ines didn’t want to drag down Valeztena because it would effectively be a rebellion so she killed herself first. Carcel was also doing things behind the scenes to help her or protect her in his own limited position.

In the subsequent timeline, Carcel helped her at the risk of his own family. As to her family, they left her alone until they could no longer do it with the other nobles demanding that she be brought back and punished alongside her family. Things were just too big in this timeline just like the preceding timeline.

Finally, since Ines has national trouble in every timeline, at least in the first and fourth timelines, her family together with Carcel’s family were supporting her and/or acting for her in both timelines. Whether it’s her mother avenging her in the first by killing the crown princess or her father waging territorial war with the Barcas in the same timeline while Juan had laid the groundwork, politically for the war. Then in the fourth timelines, Ines and Luciano plotting against Alicia and Oscar and the heads of both families marching their soldiers to the imperial palace to demand her freedom.

 

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Honestly, people don't know much about her family, let alone knowing Ines. Even from her dream, they don't even understand the dream she had of her finally realizing her brother's take on witnessing her rape. I've seen people think that dream is just showing that her brother didn't support her. Manhwa readers who claimed that he just ignored his sister being raped. It's not entirely their fault for not knowing when the manhwa cut out so much for them to not even be able to understand the purpose of that dream and chapter. Also the manhwa cut out the very beginning of the novel where Ines mentioned that she killed herself because she knew what her family would do for her so she would rather die to keep them from getting punished for avenging her. This is a very early hint in the novel showing what Ines had always known but did not fully reveal until later on when she revealed that her brother gave her the bullet. This is why I always say the novel gave good foreshadowing because Ines certainly hinted many things in her thoughts until further reveal. The manhwa typically cut these things out and just do full reveal later on, making many things seem sudden and random.

Serial chapter/episode 91 is still in volume 2. The manhwa and official novel translation is already at volume 4 so if you're asking for close spoilers, the manhwa and official translation is already ahead of your reading. There are 10 volumes to the novel. I haven't done a guideline for the volumes after volume 4 yet since I just work on each volume when the manhwa is reaching there but I've already spoiled the whole novel on the 1st page before the manhwa came out. Any more detailed spoilers are done from questions or discussions and they're also labelled on the ToC, especially since my summary is just a vague one of the events.

At this point because of people always asking for the same things and this thread is so long, I only answer new questions or things not discussed already (i.e. how someone asked about Anastasio the other day; no one asked about him before so I answered because it's a new topic that could be added to ToC).

 

Which begs the question: Has this manhwa done anything at all right?

So many people are confused about this story. So many people misunderstand things in this story. So many people think of Ines as someone different than the author wrote. So many people think Carcel is a joke besides a cheater. So many people thinks her family are just horrible people who never loved her. Even when she liked Oscar and married him in that timeline, so many people thinks Ines secretly liked Carcel because of the ambiguity of that stupid blush outside his bedroom door. What exactly have this manhwa actually gotten right? I can’t even think of anything.

 

I actually also wanted to comment even the special chapters are biased, and they claimed to be releasing things that were cut from the novel but they aren't actually even doing it properly.

From the 1st special chapter, it wasn't because Carcel and Oscar were cousins that Ines didn't think that it was possible for them to marry. In fact, in the novel, Ines knew cousins could marry even if the tradition is dying but it was because Carcel is male that he couldn't marry Oscar.

The 2nd one, it's biased because people didn't really think he doesn't deserve her but it was from a view of nobles who are jealous especially after they've been the one to spread bad rumors about Ines all this time so now the men are just thinking that just because she showed her beauty during her wedding.

Even the 3rd one, it wasn't cut from the novel. It was the manhwa team's own take on things. The novel never showed Ines thinking about her brother when she saw the necklace, nor did her thoughts of Carcel as a dog seem degrading. In fact, it's shown that Ines viewed Carcel as a dog quite positively compared to other men because in her head she always thought how she couldn't hate him because he looks like a big dog or that he looks cute even though he's so big, none of which are negative but shows that she actually quite likes him despite being adamant about admitting it. The extra thing is, Carcel knows she views him as something pitiful and cute and purposely looks pitiful in front of her because he assumed that's her type, while in truth that's not her type by she only views him as that because she likes him.

 

This just brings back to the discussion about how the manhwa is pushing Ines to appear more likable… and it is working because now many manhwa readers will even argue and disagree with novel readers when it comes to Ines. Whenever a novel reader puts out a spoiler that shows the negativity sides of Ines best believe some manhwa readers will pull out the “Double Standard” and “Misogyny” card.

I also think that part of the reason why they changed the thoughts of Ines in the 1st special chapter was because it could make others dislike her and view her as “homophobic”, or the author being “homophobic”. Either way I still think they should have kept the original scene because it makes even more sense as to why she even thought of putting Oscar and Carcel together in the first place.

 

I was telling @Celebrianna and @alpineibex the other day how it's weird that people keep siding with the main character just because she's female despite her not being the good one. It's very evident in KCC's stories. KCC always tag certain novels of hers where the FLs have "bad personality" and BR was one of them. KCC knows her FL is selfish and has a bad personality and it's always mentioned in the novel. There's no qualms of excusing it or avoiding it because that's just how Ines is. In fact, the reason I was drawn to Ines was because of her bad personality. I was tired of the overly nice FLs so I was able to connect with a FL who was as indifferent as me to people around me and has "rude behaviors" or called a "bitch" because that's just how Ines is, and the plus side is how she never denies it herself and actually proud of her own bad behavior. Whether someone likes her for it or not doesn't matter but I like that it shows that even people with difficult personalities can be liked/loved. People also tend to think just because a person is mean that they're evil but that's not true. Ines is mean, no doubt about that, but she's far from evil.

The reason why I brought up KCC tagging her stories is because her current novel has a FL that is even more selfish than Ines and has an even worse personality than Ines, but then I saw some review on NU that thinks FL is suffering so much and the MLs are happy over her suffering.... It's just so weird for me to not even try to understand what the author is writing and garnering thoughts that shows your misunderstanding of the characters. KCC even wrote on her blog to tell her Korean readers that their complaints were useless when she had warned them that the FL doesn't have a good personality to begin with.

This is what the author wrote on her blog before she released her current harem novel

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What she wrote now to reiterate her claims. She also did a comparison with Ines. This shows that Ines was also born selfish and not so good because she's comparing her with her current FL who is "really bad".

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KCC even said her current FL's written like those stereotypical overbearing MLs in other stories who force their feelings on their FLs.

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Clearly saying the FL is the one obsessed and abusive and doing whatever she wanted and forcing it on others, but then the NU review for the novel said this?

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Do people not understand what they read anymore?

 

Thats why I grew to love Ines as a female lead. She has her flaws and I love it when she takes pride for her bad behavior, but is still willing to change for the better. I just don’t like it whenever I see some people paint her as an “Angel” or always associate her bad behavior due to trauma or because of Oscar… like why can’t someone be born to have a bad behavior or be selfish without associating trauma to it