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Well, It's mean he has been control by his own Guider same as how Bellwood's Guider brainwashed Alda and his followers. (while Bellwood himself intoxicated by his "righteousness")

 

Yeah, Heinz is purposefully ignoring the reality to suit his narrative. Like y’all said, he chose not to ask Vida who he knows is right there. He chose to ignore the fact that Ghouls are sentient so that he can feel comfortable with himself.

 

Just to follow up on this previous post of mine a bit...

The reason why I think it's unlikely Alda would intervene is that he generally doesn't care much about individual mortals. If Heinz is willing to challenge Van then Alda would probably be willing to let him take the risk. Still, I guess it's possible that Alda could have some other kind of motivation or feels that it's too much of a risk.

A further thought on Nineroad: if she did intervene on her own, then it's actually rather interesting for her character since she has taken a "hands off" attitude towards intervening in mortal affairs. In other words, if she did do this then her emotions might well be running unusually high. For example, perhaps she's furious with Heinz's lack of gratitude - after all, she was summoned to Lambda to help defend against the Demon King, so attacking the world's saviour is a major fail. Another possibility - I've speculated before that Nineroad might well have special feelings towards Bellwood, so perhaps she intervened to save Bellwood from certain death (Van) rather than specifically wanting to save Heinz.


PS Heinz wanted Van to prove that he isn't somehow cursed by the big G. That's basically demanding proof of non-existence, which is impossible. Just another logical fallacy on the Heinz pile.

 

Hey, what happened with amamiya mei? is she alright?

 

She is fine, other then the development quirks one would expect from having a Lovecraft inspired Cthulhu like monster for an invisible friend/nanny/body guard.

 

and Naruse Narumi? does she know that she married the wrong guy?

 

She learned that last arc. In fact, pretry much everything in Origin has concluded already in a overall happy manner. Right now the Braverz boy and Narumi are trying to 'create a world were Mei is not persecuted' while Mei (and Hiroshi) are at Van's........ soul world thingy being educated in both Origin and Lambda science. And Mei (now that she have a status) is officialy being posessed by Banda, as in, he is a spirit (demon) who follow her arround. Funily enough, the decription given is that even is Banda was 'disconnected' to Mai for whatever reason he would just re-summon himself to her because he likes her.

 

In one of the already translated origin chapters it was stated that she knew that before they even got married.

 

Yes, this. To elaborate on this point, she WANTED Amamiya (the MC, Bravers guy is Amemiya with an e) but everyone in the group reached the conclusion that, since he was last, he wound up opting to be sent back to Earth for a normal reincarnation after all. So, thinking he was safely gone and back on Earth, she formed a relationship with the guy she mistook for the MC because the initial missunderstanding was enough of an ice-breaker to allow her to start getting to know him and ultimately deciding she likes him.

There were no lies between the two of them in their relationship at all until Oracle spoke with Amemiya and they discovered that MC had been reincarnated with the rest of them after all, and was probably the undead. He hid that from her because, especially as someone who helped deliver the finishing blow to the MC, he was afraid that knowledge would be way too much for her and destroy her mentally. He didn't want to give her that psychological pain. She found out about that part when she met Banda, and of course that ultimately worked out for the best because, in the same moment she found out she played a part in killing him, she also found out that not only was he still alive in a 3rd life but he also completely forgave her. So, she didn't even have time or a reason to feel guilty at all and her psychological health was more or less fine. So, in a weird way, this bit of secret keeping by her husband wound up ultimately working for the best and it all shook out in the absolute best way possible.

 

I wluldn't say forgive per se. More like not caring about Origin at all besides Mei, Hiroshi, the new DA experimental subjects and the people he guided.

 

Being honest, I need an epilogue chapter with Mei and Hiroshi returning to their world and trying to act as normally as possible for two children who have eaten dinosaurs or revived zombies.

 

Now they are gonna be the cool kids who have eaten dinosaur and meet a zombie horde!

 

No, that is forgiveness in the biblical sense, although not so much the positive sense we attach to it nowadays. The biblical sense of the word is exactly what Van has done with them. In that connotation, forgiveness is not something you do in order to return to a positive life with the person you forgave. Biblical forgiveness means you let go of the anger in your own heart and stop dwelling on those bad things, but if you are still suspicious of being hurt in the future then despite the forgiveness you will still have nothing to do with that person.

Dismissing them and wanting nothing to do with them is still forgiveness in this sense, it means he's not enraged and wanting to exact vengeance on them, and he's perfectly capable of viewing them as just the parents of Mei and Hiroshi and relating to them in that sense while considering them dead to him in the sense of them being former Earth dwellers and Narumi as a former classmate.

 

Again, I'm talking about True Demon King specifically, not the assimilation of cheats into other skills in general.

Even so, Van could have explained that he can examine his own soul like the supernatural medical guru he is, and that he carefully concluded that there are absolutely no suspicious side effects to what he did. Case closed.

Haunted, not possessed.

Mei's special skill is basically Banda's leash. I don't think he really needs it, but it ensures that he's always close enough to supervise Mei.

That too, but there is no logical reason to hold such a grudge anyway. He was killing people and they didn't recognize him, so they killed him. Very easy mistake to make.

 

here is a potential reason, Sleipnir is the ability to use whatever you're riding to its full potential basically perfect mastery over it and I'm sure it applies to horses and the like most importantly dragons the demon king coming in on top of a dragon
and being untouchable is BADASS or as you put it thematically appropriate.

I'm not sure about the rest but I assume you can make a case for it like shaman creating subordinates, doesn't fit well but I'm sure others can come up with a better reason.

 

are you suggesting van should ride on his son?

 

I was thinking of Revezfor, and van Pauvina and the crew coming up out nowhere like the big bosses but fair enough.

 

so with this battle over and heizs gone for a while the only way I see alda wining is resurrecting other half of demon king as like a last-ditch trump card (unlikely).Alda getting rodcortes power using his pile of law or whatever(probable), using the god of ranks, skills, and jobs to rig things his way (unlikely) we have like no info on them and is more likely that vida faction would do this with ricklent and zuruwarm but stated that there was restriction because of the fail-safe thing. Can't think of anything else but im sure some one got a killer theorie idea .

 

Of course not, he needs to ride the kids mother